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1. brigan+Ms[view] [source] 2022-11-03 06:47:57
>>feross+(OP)
As I've said for a long time, I don't mind moderation, I just want to be in charge of what I see. Give me the tools that the moderators have, let me be able to filter out bots at some confidence level; let me see "removed" posts, banned accounts; don't mess with my searches unless I've asked for that explicitly.

Power to the people.

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2. baxtr+Lw[view] [source] 2022-11-03 07:35:22
>>brigan+Ms
Love the idea. Not sure if I understand though.

So you want a moderator to moderate. but then you also want to have tools to see what has been moderated away and unlock those? Right? So moderate yes, but also unmoderate by the users.

Power to the people!

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3. friend+CR[view] [source] 2022-11-03 11:09:35
>>baxtr+Lw
I don't know if this is what OP meant, but I really like your interpretation

Mods exist and can ban/lock/block people and content but users can see everything that was banned, removed or locked, as well as the reason why; what policy did the user violate?

I think the only exception would be actually illegal content; that should be removed entirely, but maybe keep a note from the mods in its place stating "illegal content".

That way users can actually scrutinise what the mods do and one doesn't wonder whether or not the mods removed a post because they are biased or for ligit reasons, and opinions are not entirely removed, as they are still readable, but you can't respond to them

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4. pixl97+n21[view] [source] 2022-11-03 12:35:46
>>friend+CR
So where does spam fit in this?

In addition crap floods? If I submit half a billion posts do you really want that handled by moderation?

Being a server operator I've seen how bad the internet actually sucks, this may be something the user base does not have to experience directly. When 99.9% of incoming attempts are dropped or ban listed you start to learn how big the problem can be.

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5. brigan+Oq1[view] [source] 2022-11-03 14:31:12
>>pixl97+n21
Spam is advertising, right? That doesn't need special protection. Flooding is like the heckler's veto so that could also be against the rules, it doesn't need special protection either.

As to moderation, why not be able to filter by several factors, like "confidence level this account is a spammer"? Or perhaps "limit tweets to X number per account", or "filter by chattiness". I have some accounts I follow (not on Twitter, I haven't used it logged in in years) that post a lot, I wish I could turn down the volume, so to speak.

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6. pixl97+lx1[view] [source] 2022-11-03 14:56:13
>>brigan+Oq1
>Spam is advertising, right?

What is spam... exactly? Especially when it comes to a 'generalized' forum. I mean would talking about Kanye be spam or not? It's this way with all celebrities, talking about them increases engagement and drives new business.

Are influencers advertising?

Confidence systems commonly fail across large generalized populations with focused subpopulations. Said subpopulations tend to be adversely affected by moderation because their use of communication differs from the generalized form.

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