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1. Joel_M+BS[view] [source] 2022-11-03 11:19:35
>>feross+(OP)
If it is not not on your server, than you don't get to complain.

Moderators were initially tasked with keeping threads on topic, enforcing predefined community standards, and parsing irrelevant detractors.

Dark patterns are now mostly just used to manipulate people, and attenuate conduct to fall into line with group think biases. This policy drives up engagement, traffic, and profits.

Most truly smart people I met, were often rather prickly characters more concerned with data than being popular. ;)

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2. telmo+yU[view] [source] 2022-11-03 11:39:05
>>Joel_M+BS
> If it is not not on your server, than you don't get to complain.

That is a rather naive slogan to be repeating in 2022.

Once your servers become the de facto public square, we absolutely get to complain. Not even talking about how your server is running on top of a huge amount of infrastructure that was created by our society, enabled by principles and laws that have been discovered and refined across generations. Your server does not exist in a vacuum.

Democracy requires a healthy public square to survive and thrive, and that is more important than some overly simplistic notion of private property.

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3. lm2846+F01[view] [source] 2022-11-03 12:25:32
>>telmo+yU
> Once your servers become the de facto public square

Twitter ? It's far from a public square, even in the US (outside of the US it barely exists)

Also, if an online public square is a pre requisite for democracy: it should be a public utility, not something owned by a company who's incentive are diametrically opposed to the interests of the users

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4. telmo+y11[view] [source] 2022-11-03 12:30:57
>>lm2846+F01
I live in Europe and I can tell you that Twitter absolutely became the public square for politicians at all levels of government, in the various countries and in the EU. It is also where all journalists hang out, and many other type of actors too (academic researchers for example, all sorts of activists, etc). And I am pretty sure it is the same in the US.

I'm sorry but you do not know what you are talking about.

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5. pixl97+G31[view] [source] 2022-11-03 12:43:57
>>telmo+y11
Not really, a bunch of politicians and journalists decided to go to some rich guys private mansion and now we get to see the fallout of using private property rather than ensuring actual public owned places exist.
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