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>>feross+(OP)
What this whole debate totally misses in the USA at least, is that it even only exists because of a bigger violation and distortion of the Constitution, the freedom so implicit that it crossed the minds of the founders of America even less than having to protect the right to keep and bear arms, the right to free association, being allowed and able to chose who one wants to associate with and who one fires not want to associate with. We are not able to do such a fundamental thing in America today, by law (de jure, Sotomayor), as it had been prohibited through perversion and in violation of the Constitution through the amendment off that very Constitution.

Almost all other arguments over moderation v. censorship are a derivative of the most fundamental freedom, freedom to choose, control over one’s own life. That natural human right simply does not exist in America (and moist western places) anymore, effectively all the “civil rights amendments” have done the opposite off their states objectives, they have institutionalized federal government enslavement, total domination off federal government control over your life. You no longer get to chose shoo you associate with, you’re slave master federal government decides on who you are allowed to associate with. You are as free as you are permitted.

All this other debate of moderation and censorship is meaningless noise, merely beating around the bush to discuss rearranging the deck chairs on the titanic.

And for all our foreign friends, whether they are in America acting as if they are American or outside of America, all of these matters related to the Constitution are very relevant to you too, whether you understand it or not, because all the freedom you have and think you have is a direct derivative of the founders of the USA creating the Constitution. Most people have just taken it so for granted or it is all so abstract that they do not understand any of it, because not even a person of European background can be American without understanding these things properly, let alone someone without European ethic and cultural background.

That may offend people hearing it, but it does not make any of it less true. In fact it is the “moderation” that is inherent censorship, which even prevents the system from self-correcting, i.e., moderating, because it is really just perversion, i.e., distortion, being called moderation.

There would be nothing to discuss about this topic if the world dominating tyrannical evil of forced association did not exist.

>>frankf+TW
Slow down frankfrankfrank

You didn't explain why Americans don't have the right of free association

>>engine+XX
I believe they are referring to the Civil Rights Act, and specifically its restrictions on business and hiring practices from denying service or opportunity based on the color of one's skin, one's region, one's sex, etc.