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1. Phlogi+w6[view] [source] 2022-10-30 18:11:10
>>andrew+(OP)
How is the performance if you run like 5 VMs incl. a Windows one?
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2. pencil+4C1[view] [source] 2022-10-31 07:06:39
>>Phlogi+w6
I found that 16GB on my laptop provided only enough memory for two app VMs. I don't understand how people are keeping all these VMs without constantly shutting them down and starting them up again.

I was using zswap to cut the memory load of each VM, which made it sort of tolerable. When a VM gets to using too much RAM, streaks and visual artifacts start to show up in windows and desktop decorations, eventually filling them with random noise, and then there is nothing to do but shut the VM, and often the whole machine, down.

I resent systemd burning hundreds of MB in each VM for, mostly, nothing of any value. You can "systemctl disable" things like wpa_supplicant, but it doesn't help much.

I have finally got another laptop with 32GB, expandable to 64GB. But suspend/resume doesn't work on it -- screen just goes black, until power-off -- nor an external HDMI monitor. I have to hope future kernel releases will fix these.

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3. agiaca+jN3[view] [source] 2022-10-31 19:15:45
>>pencil+4C1
> I found that 16GB on my laptop provided only enough memory for two app VMs

That seems...not right. I typically have 8-10 app Qubes running and don't have a problem, although I only use web browsers in a couple at a time, truth be told, which are my typical RAM use offenders.

Qubes, like most *nixes, will allocate all available RAM when it's free, so maybe that is where you are seeing the problem? When you run additional Qubes, the OS should balance and re-distribute RAM so it isn't typically an issue. I find that it works quite well for my uses.

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