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>>quenti+(OP)
With Signal moving away from SMS, the required messaging app stack on my phone just to be able to receive everything sent do me will have to be:

- Signal -> Close friends & family I've convinced to use it.

- WhatsApp -> Most of my friends.

- SMS -> School notifications, 2FA, shipping updates, etc.

- Facebook Messenger -> Elderly relatives

- Telegram -> That one relative who wants to use this instead of Signal.

Is there a consolidated messaging app that the HN community recommends?

I can't be the only one suffering from messenger bloat.

>>joel35+Ub
Matrix

>>robobr+rc
Matrix has fundamental security problems that they seem unwilling to fix. Almost a polar opposite to Signal.

>>angry_+dk
What security problems?

Genuinely curious, not trying to be antagonistic.

>>derbOa+Zv
Commentry from tptacek: https://twitter.com/tqbf/status/1575259743278563329

on this paper: https://nebuchadnezzar-megolm.github.io/

>>angry_+Rd1
What do you mean by "unwilling to fix"? They published a blog post addressing the exact issues you brought up.

https://matrix.org/blog/2022/09/28/upgrade-now-to-address-en...

>>woojoo+Em2
They don't, and they haven't. The flaws, like being able to add servers without every participant trusting them, require a deeper redesign.