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1. andrew+Ob[view] [source] 2022-10-12 11:09:15
>>nickpa+(OP)
Is this the same person who every now and then appears on HN utterly outraged by Wikipedia's fundraising?

I donate to Wikipedia.

And I am glad they have lots of money. I do not feel outraged about it, I feel happy about it.

I do not feel outraged that they use whatever persuasive tactics that they use - this is necessary in the modern world.

Wikipedia is a great service, it should be valued. They should not always be living close to the edge of going out of business. How they spend their funds raised is their business.

This anti Wikipedia person is really annoying and I wish they would stop their crusade.

EDIT: it seems the outraged guy is a right wing Murdoch journalist. Enough said, it all adds up. I still remember how Murdoch ran a successful campaign here in Australia to sink the planned national fibre to the home broadband network - 10 years down the track we never got our national fibre network. These guys hate tech, especially free information services like Wikipedia and national broadcasters like the ABC Australian Broadcasting Corporation - Murdoch wants to own it all and hates free.

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2. andrew+xc[view] [source] 2022-10-12 11:15:54
>>andrew+Ob
"Wokepedia". This guy certainly has an axe to grind. Looks like urging people not to donate is in fact a right wing attack on Wikpedia - "The Daily Telegraph" of course being a Murdoch newspaper.

From the authors Wikpedia page: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrew_Orlowski

"Writing for The Daily Telegraph in May 2021, Orlowski said that the Wikimedia Foundation was "flush with cash" and passing money to the Tides Network, which he described as "a left-leaning dark money group"; he referred to Wikipedia as "Wokepedia" in an allusion to the term "woke".[24] In another article for The Daily Telegraph, in December 2021, Orlowski said the Wikimedia Foundation's urgent fundraising banners on Wikipedia were "preposterous" given that it held assets of $240 million and had a $100 million endowment, and the Wikimedia Foundation Deputy Director had said in 2013 that the Foundation could be sustainable on "$10M+ a year".[25] In August 2022, Orlowski claimed that Wikipedia had "become a tool of the Left in the battle to control the truth", referencing the recent controversy over Wikipedia's definition of a recession.[26]"

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3. Applej+Nd[view] [source] 2022-10-12 11:26:06
>>andrew+xc
I'd wondered whether it was a clever ploy to GET me to donate to Wikipedia/media/whatever, what with all the comments ranting in right-wing style. Kind of like Nike or whoever, gesturing to causes they don't really do anything to support, in order to goad political rants against then and elicit a larger backlash and more money they'd have had if they kept quiet.

HBomberguy has a good video on the subject. You can use people ranting about 'wokeness' to make money, and while it's amusing and gratifying to indulge that 'ha, I showed you, I don't agree with your ranting against this thing!' it's engaging in pseudo-political behavior that's in a sense wasted. Throwing more money at Wikipedia isn't really helping them be more woke, it's helping them be better at using that to ask for money.

I'm not actually going to give them money today but that's because I gotta tend to my own affairs: if I had a bunch extra I'd send some Wikipedia's way on the grounds that at least they're annoying the right people?

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4. katama+Xk[view] [source] 2022-10-12 12:17:36
>>Applej+Nd
After reading the article and others on that website I'm donating to Black Lives Matter and some LGBT org.
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5. fallin+nn[view] [source] 2022-10-12 12:32:50
>>katama+Xk
Definitely don't donate to BLM, though. https://www.cnn.com/2022/09/04/us/black-lives-matter-executi...
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6. katama+Jn1[view] [source] 2022-10-12 17:03:34
>>fallin+nn
I definitively donated to some BLM org which may or may not be this one, and i'll keep doing it
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7. fallin+KX1[view] [source] 2022-10-12 19:48:55
>>katama+Jn1
Wait so you would keep donating even if you know they are thieves?
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8. katama+S08[view] [source] 2022-10-14 16:03:02
>>fallin+KX1
Just checked here: The BLM org I donated was not this one you linked, but i'm seeking this one specifically to make a new donation, just because your bad faith argument.
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