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>>ksec+(OP)
I hate how Apple is becoming increasingly an advertising company.

>>moolco+yh
What's interesting is how this all worked out for them, whether it's serendipitous or purposeful.

Conventional consumer data collection relies on users coming to the collection mechanism i.e. spending time on a website or interactions on social media.

Apple is poised to withstand many privacy protection measures because their collection mechanism is in millions of peoples' hands and pockets. iPhone users are providing high-resolution data to their platform. The accuracy of your personality profile and related data are nicely packaged and easy to convert into highly targeted advertising.

>>mattwe+xj
The idea that Tim Cook is Batman is pretty far fetched.

>>prange+Rl
He isn't (but it would be cool if he was).

However, it does seem fairly likely that he's a bit of a pushover, politically. I hate to beat a dead horse, but this is the guy who doubled-down on China while even Google was appalled by how they were using personal data to hunt dissidents. He's not Batman, but he's also not powerless to stop the incredible human suffering caused through Apple's deliberate labor partners and political allies. If Tim Cook had the gall to start moving away from China 10 years ago, maybe he'd have a shot at being even better than Bruce Wayne.

All of this is to say, Tim Cook is certainly not going to stand up for your data privacy when national interests step in. The best he can do is encrypt your device and give you a copy of th- I mean, your keys.

>>smolde+uy
“Incredible human suffering”? This doesn’t seem like a serious comment.

>>prange+6z1
When your business partners are world governments, unfortunately mass suffering is the table stakes. Even ignoring Apple's exploitation of cheap laborers who subsist on a standard-of-living magnitudes below you or I, their repeated inability to admit failure is what scares me. Apple gives the US government access to too much data without a warrant. That's a fact. Here's another fact for you; the CCP has equally oppressive access to the data of their citizens. Apple has no right to sell entire nation-states access to their citizen's data, especially if they want to educate everyone else about how "privacy is a human right" and all that.

>>smolde+Q32
> When your business partners are world governments, unfortunately mass suffering is the table stakes.

You haven’t mentioned any suffering Apple is causing.

If you mean to say anyone who does business with a government is causing untold suffering, then I guess you are advancing an anarchist agenda. Fair enough.

> cheap laborers who subsist on a standard-of-living magnitudes below you or I

Orders of magnitude above the average in China, a developing country.

Isn’t this just Sinophobia?