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1. mgamac+ya[view] [source] 2022-10-12 10:58:15
>>nickpa+(OP)
It’s not just they are flush with cash. It’s they are funding and fanning the culture war despite claiming to be a neutral party. Some of their funds are being routed to political entities that are not neutral.

Edit: here’s a link to a thread about what I mean:

https://twitter.com/echetus/status/1579776106034757633?s=46&...

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2. e12e+cb[view] [source] 2022-10-12 11:04:05
>>mgamac+ya
Free access to knowledge isn't a neutral position.

But I gather you think wmf is doing something beyond this? Which side, of which culture war do they support, in your view?

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3. mgamac+me[view] [source] 2022-10-12 11:30:39
>>e12e+cb
They clearly support a left ideology by the editors, but I’m not even talking about that. I mean they send money to support far left anti-science groups.

https://twitter.com/echetus/status/1579779097278181378?s=46&...

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4. Edward+nh[view] [source] 2022-10-12 11:51:45
>>mgamac+me
You have a strange definition of far-left, didn't see a single Maoist insurrection in that Twitter link.

Curse of American politics, I guess, when one considers the Democrats to be "left leaning", then your whole political perception is skewed.

(The Democrats are significantly to the right of our centre-right party. People who call them lefties or socialists or commies amuse, confuse, and bemuse me.)

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5. mgamac+Dq[view] [source] 2022-10-12 12:52:35
>>Edward+nh
In this case far-left mean groups that are opposed to objectivity and support adding bias to science. This is the 2+2=5 crowd. They can believe whatever they want, but this is not science and is born out of neo-Marxist ideology.
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6. e12e+GO[view] [source] 2022-10-12 14:39:55
>>mgamac+Dq
Where can I read more about this neo-Marxist ideology, that apparently borrows from Marx (certainly pro-science) to somehow become anti-science?
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7. mgamac+y01[view] [source] 2022-10-12 15:28:27
>>e12e+GO
Wait you think Marx was pro science? He denied the supernatural, but like all ideologies reality is secondary to dogmatism. Don't forget he was routed in Hegel.

See Lysenkoism: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lysenkoism

Marx's ideas were refined by Antonio Gramsci who offered social Hegemony as a means to achieve the utopia. To the extent that science is a sense-making part of society it must be taken over by pro-marxist/communist forces. It's the only way to assure the success of marxism.

https://link.springer.com/article/10.1057/palgrave.cpt.93001...

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8. skyyle+Uw1[view] [source] 2022-10-12 17:44:46
>>mgamac+y01
Using Lysenko as evidence that Marx was anti-science is kinda weird.

Stalin had thousands of Lysenko's critics imprisoned, I dunno how Marx would feel about that, but I have a feeling it wouldn't be particularly positive.

What does Hegel have to do with anything here? Adam Smith was also "routed in Hegel"...

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9. eurlei+Dx1[view] [source] 2022-10-12 17:48:07
>>skyyle+Uw1
>Adam Smith was also "routed in Hegel"...

Adam Smith published The Wealth of Nations when Hegel was 5 years old, and died when Hegel was 19, and hadn't published anything yet.

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