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1. ripper+m8[view] [source] 2022-10-12 10:37:15
>>nickpa+(OP)
Eh. If you don't want to donate, don't, but I don't quite get the outrage here. The Wikimedia Foundation is still small as far as charities go and is visibly making Wikipedia better: the new UI is a breath of fresh air, and given the insane complexity of MediaWiki markup, the visual editor is a piece of unimaginable technical wizardry. Wiktionary is an unheralded gem and even Wikidata is starting to be genuinely useful.

For what it's worth, Charity Navigator gives them 4 out of 4 stars with a 98.33/100 rating: https://www.charitynavigator.org/ein/200049703

Meanwhile eg the American Cancer Society gets 73/100 and spends more on fundraising than WMF's entire budget, so oncologists can snort blow off hookers in Vegas, but nobody cares.

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2. phpist+hb[view] [source] 2022-10-12 11:04:35
>>ripper+m8
In some ways Charity Navigator is like the BBB, and people need to take those ratings with a grain of salt.

What is not said here, but I think it was started this article there was a break-down on Twitter [2] recently where someone broke down the grants Wikimedia Foundation gives to other charities, A lot of Wikimedia has become advocacy for social issues not the spread of free information. Some of those Social issues many of the donors to Wikimedia may not agree with, and it being redistributed to some pretty controversial organizations. People donating to Wikimedia thinking they are advancing Wikipedia but in reality the bulk of the foundation spending is issuing grants to other charities.

>>Meanwhile eg the American Cancer Society gets 73/100 and spends more on fundraising than WMF's entire budget

I am reminded of this TED talk[1] from several years ago that talks about fundraising and charity

[1] https://www.ted.com/talks/dan_pallotta_the_way_we_think_abou...

[2] https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1579778161889652736.html

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3. webere+5f[view] [source] 2022-10-12 11:35:29
>>phpist+hb
>In the videos they discuss issues in science like objectivity (they're against it) and bias (they're in favour).

Its a shame so much money is being funneled to these groups since that's exactly the opposite goal of most donators to Wikipedia.

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4. KennyB+rg[view] [source] 2022-10-12 11:45:24
>>webere+5f
I'm going to go out on a limb and guess that you didn't verify, even slightly, anything that tweet-thread author said.

Either that, or like the author, you agree with their claim that grant money going to journalists who are people of color is 'furthering the inescapable American culture war.'

Jeez, how dare those black people engage in journalism that isn't about white culture. They're declaring war on American (white) culture!" /s

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5. akolbe+tj[view] [source] 2022-10-12 12:07:43
>>KennyB+rg
I agree, in part. That Twitter thread starts of really well but jumps the shark right towards the end.
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6. phpist+uk[view] [source] 2022-10-12 12:14:12
>>akolbe+tj
Only if you read it in the most uncharitable way, and ignore the very real aspects of the "Culture War" around things like CRT, Anti-Racism, DEI, ESG, etc that have very real political and partisan aspects to them. Often intersecting with the very concept of what role government should play in people's life, what authority government should have, and how government should regulate both behavior and economies
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7. akolbe+on[view] [source] 2022-10-12 12:32:52
>>phpist+uk
I am uncomfortable with the video stills at the end that do seem to be picking on black people. Maybe I am doing the Twitter user an injustice, but there were four other grant recipients they could have been picking on as well:

https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Knowledge_Equity_Fund#Grant_...

This said, I agree with the premise that the Wikimedia Foundation is partisan. Its General Counsel came from the Tides Foundation, which is as partisan as any of its equivalents on the right, and its Chief Advancement Officer, responsible for fundraising and strategic partnerships, had a long career in political philanthropy before joining Wikimedia:

https://sfgov.org/civilservice/sites/default/files/Documents...

https://www.sfweekly.com/news/greening-the-left/

https://www.sfgate.com/politics/article/COMMUNITY-Growing-ch...

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8. origin+un1[view] [source] 2022-10-12 17:02:37
>>akolbe+on
The videos are what they are claimed to be. The last one features the black lady talking about how get experiments killed octopuses (weird!). You sound like you didn't watch them and are just reacting to the fact that black women are being criticized?
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