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1. andrew+Ob[view] [source] 2022-10-12 11:09:15
>>nickpa+(OP)
Is this the same person who every now and then appears on HN utterly outraged by Wikipedia's fundraising?

I donate to Wikipedia.

And I am glad they have lots of money. I do not feel outraged about it, I feel happy about it.

I do not feel outraged that they use whatever persuasive tactics that they use - this is necessary in the modern world.

Wikipedia is a great service, it should be valued. They should not always be living close to the edge of going out of business. How they spend their funds raised is their business.

This anti Wikipedia person is really annoying and I wish they would stop their crusade.

EDIT: it seems the outraged guy is a right wing Murdoch journalist. Enough said, it all adds up. I still remember how Murdoch ran a successful campaign here in Australia to sink the planned national fibre to the home broadband network - 10 years down the track we never got our national fibre network. These guys hate tech, especially free information services like Wikipedia and national broadcasters like the ABC Australian Broadcasting Corporation - Murdoch wants to own it all and hates free.

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2. cxr+hk[view] [source] 2022-10-12 12:13:05
>>andrew+Ob
> I donate to Wikipedia.

Have you? Wikipedia doesn't accept money. Wikimedia does, though.

> I do not feel outraged that they use whatever persuasive tactics that they use - this is necessary in the modern world.

Necessary how? For what?

I donate to Wikipedia—as a Wikipedian. I've contributed a bunch of time editing content and doing lots of gnomish things to create value so that Wikipedia is a "great service". Millions of others have, too. But neither I nor any of the other people have anything to do with your donations.

Don't misunderstand: this is not a call-to-action for revenue sharing in the vein of the articles constantly appearing about the sustainability of FOSS; I'm not saying "give us a cut". What I am saying is that the Wikimedia fundraising tactics are thoroughly unnecessary to the actual production costs of Wikipedia that Wikimedia is responsible for.

Am I outraged? No. Do I recognize what WMF is doing as borderline slimy? Yes.

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