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1. vegash+0i[view] [source] 2007-02-28 06:43:38
>>pg+(OP)
Better display of source code in comments
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2. pg+Dq8[view] [source] 2007-07-06 14:54:00
>>vegash+0i
You can now include code in comments:

 (def codetree (file)
   (trav + 1 (readall (infile file))))
Anything that appears after two newlines and a blank space is treated as code, till there's a line that doesn't begin with a space. This is like the markdown convention, but you don't have to use four spaces; one will do.

Incidentally, the code above tells me the number of nodes in the code tree of a file. Not just leaves, which would be

 (len (flat (readall (infile file))))
but interior nodes as well. To me this is the best measure of how long a program is. I used to go by lines of code

 (def codelines (file)
   (w/infile in file 
     (summing test
       (whilet line (readline in)
         (test (aand (find nonwhite line) (isnt it #\;)))))))
but I found this was encouraging me to do the wrong things.

(This kind of test matters because I'm constantly trying to make news.yc shorter as a way of pushing functionality down into Arc.)

Here's trav, btw:

 (def trav (f base tree)
   (if (atom tree)
       (base tree)
       (f (trav f base (car tree)) (trav f base (cdr tree)))))
It traverses a tree, doing something at every node. So e.g. CL copy-tree would be

 (def copy-tree (tree) (trav cons (fn (x) x) tree))
If you're wondering how the second argument to trav in codetree could be 1, it's because a constant when called as a function simply returns itself. This turns out to be quite handy.

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3. cwarre+xt8[view] [source] 2007-07-07 15:34:47
>>pg+Dq8
Figure I might as well post this here as well:

Numbers _are not_ functions! This kind of attitude is what gets you python's list formatting operator:

>>> "%s" % ("a string",)

'a string'

>>> "%s" % ["a string"]

"['a string']"

I've been burned by that before, and I'm not exactly stupid.

(I don't think this posted the first time. Forgive me if this turns out to be a double.)

edit: Bah, I can't get this code to format properly. How's that for ironic ;)

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4. Zak+Ot8[view] [source] 2007-07-07 17:06:00
>>cwarre+xt8
Arc seems to take a very implicit approach to things - rather unlike Python. I haven't written anything non-trivial in Python, but it looks like the problem with the list formatting operator is that it's an infix operator that depends on similar looking characters (paren and square bracket) for its syntax. I think it might be less confusing as a function or method:

 list_format("%s", ("a string",)
 list_format("%s", ("a string",)
 ("a string",).format("%s")
 ["a string"].format("%s")
Looking at it on the screen, making it a method call looks far less confusing. Arc treating constants and sequences as functions doesn't seem like the same kind of thinking to me.
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