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1. Emma_G+wd[view] [source] 2022-09-08 18:20:44
>>xd+(OP)
I realise she has just died and it's unbecoming to do anything but laud the person, but this is just moral obsequiousness.

She claims fealty by right of blood, reigned as the crown of an extraordinarily cruel empire, and frequently interceded in the democratic government of Britain to protect her private interests.

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2. driedd+Qi[view] [source] 2022-09-08 18:37:25
>>Emma_G+wd
She and her family is responsible for a lot of atrocities around the world. Yet a lot of people here are eulogizing as if she was a saint who taught art of living to the people.

To me this is a demonstration of power of conditioning and media management.

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3. oceanp+On[view] [source] 2022-09-08 18:55:56
>>driedd+Qi
My family is Argentine. The Queen’s son personally boarded a war ship to travel 7000km away to kill Argentines because they dared assert sovereignty against another country in a completely separate hemisphere of the Earth. The idea that the days of empire building are behind us is false.
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4. rcarr+iz[view] [source] 2022-09-08 19:44:51
>>oceanp+On
My understanding was that the Falklands voted to remain in the UK and the UK fought to defend that democratic wish. If this is wrong please inform me so I can update my knowledge. If it's correct though, I don't see how fighting to defend a democratic mandate is a bad thing? Aren't we all cheering on Ukraine for exactly this right now?
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5. oceanp+WA[view] [source] 2022-09-08 19:53:07
>>rcarr+iz
Yes, all of the British voted to remain. None of the Argentine, or other South Americans were legally allowed to cast a ballot. I guess that's the UK's idea of a democracy.
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6. msla+zI1[view] [source] 2022-09-09 04:52:23
>>oceanp+WA
The people who weren't living on the Falklands didn't get a vote, true.
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7. rcarr+Hc2[view] [source] 2022-09-09 09:49:04
>>msla+zI1
Surely the only people who should have got a vote in this matter are the people living on the island? If you’re going to let everyone vote on everything then the entire world would end up being owned by China because it’s got the most people.
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