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1. Emma_G+wd[view] [source] 2022-09-08 18:20:44
>>xd+(OP)
I realise she has just died and it's unbecoming to do anything but laud the person, but this is just moral obsequiousness.

She claims fealty by right of blood, reigned as the crown of an extraordinarily cruel empire, and frequently interceded in the democratic government of Britain to protect her private interests.

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2. dijit+Oh[view] [source] 2022-09-08 18:34:02
>>Emma_G+wd
> reigned as the crown of an extraordinarily cruel empire

Queen Elizabeth presided over its dismantlement. No famines occurred during her reign and no rebellions violently suppressed.

The Empire was cruel, but it's unfair to wash her with the cloth of empire.

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3. oceanp+rm[view] [source] 2022-09-08 18:50:17
>>dijit+Oh
She was a good person, and has my respect but she was also a symbol of a deeply flawed system of governance.

There are lots of notable figures that have died recently (Gorbachev alone may have saved the world as we know it), that don’t get the same, almost pathological level of admiration. It’s not normal to break down crying because a person you never met died at age 97.. that’s hundreds of years of indoctrination, social, and religious manipulation at work.

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4. icare_+6b2[view] [source] 2022-09-09 09:27:02
>>oceanp+rm
I would argue, on the opposite, that being unaffected by the passing of significant symbols of our lives/traditions, is the product of modern indoctrination.
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