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1. simons+94[view] [source] 2022-09-08 17:48:59
>>xd+(OP)
Winston Churchill (1951–55)

Anthony Eden (1955–57)

Harold Macmillan (1957–63)

Alec Douglas-Home (1963–64)

Harold Wilson (1964–70)

Edward Heath (1970–74)

Harold Wilson (1974–76)

James Callaghan (1976–79)

Margaret Thatcher (1979–90)

John Major (1990–97)

Tony Blair (1997–07)

Gordon Brown (2007–10)

David Cameron (2010–16)

Theresa May (2016–19)

Boris Johnson (2019–22)

Liz Truss (2022 (two days ago) - current)

Quite the reign! Can't help but feel a bit sad really.

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2. ddlath+W6[view] [source] 2022-09-08 17:57:48
>>simons+94
Indeed she reigned for about 30% of U.S. history.

(credit for observation goes to Matt Glassman)

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3. logicc+pA[view] [source] 2022-09-08 19:50:24
>>ddlath+W6
And she was queen of Australia for over 57% of its history.
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4. markdo+Zk1[view] [source] 2022-09-09 00:42:54
>>logicc+pA
Ahh, yes, because Australia began with the whitefella.
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5. denkmo+Mm1[view] [source] 2022-09-09 01:06:55
>>markdo+Zk1
Approximately zero of the indigenous population present prior to settlement by Europeans would have identified as being Australian, or of being born in Australia, or anything like that.

Definitively, yes, Australia "began" with European settlement of the continent.

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6. batiud+ar1[view] [source] 2022-09-09 01:48:06
>>denkmo+Mm1
So what? It’s just a name. Australia was still here; people were living here. Who are you to definitively declare this?

Perhaps this may seem like semantics to someone who doesn’t live here but I find this sentiment at best ignorant and at worst offensive.

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7. denkmo+Es1[view] [source] 2022-09-09 02:06:16
>>batiud+ar1
Except I do live here, and it's patently ridiculous to say The Commonwealth of Australia is anything but an invention of European settlers. Of which Queen Elizabeth II was the Head of State for 57% of its existence. Which is the context of this comment thread.
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8. batiud+vt1[view] [source] 2022-09-09 02:13:51
>>denkmo+Es1
It didn’t say “The Commonwealth it Australia’s existence” it said 57% of Australia’s history which I maintain is fundamentally incorrect.

However, I think there is nothing further to be gained here as we would be arguing semantics.

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9. denkmo+Ot1[view] [source] 2022-09-09 02:16:05
>>batiud+vt1
Common sense would dictate that GP is talking about the country not the continent, as continents typically do not have heads of state :)
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10. Cogito+zy1[view] [source] 2022-09-09 03:05:29
>>denkmo+Ot1
While that is true, it's not typically how the phrase "Australia's history" is interpreted.

It's common for "Australia's history" to refer to pre-colonisation in addition to the last couple of hundred years.

This is almost certainly because Australians see the country and the continent as 'the same' for all intents and purposes.

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