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1. kadenw+C1[view] [source] 2022-09-06 21:27:37
>>danso+(OP)
This is ridiculous and has been a cascade of awful precedents for the Internet. This is legitimately an extremely bad sign of what's to come for the Internet's future.
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2. cautho+r2[view] [source] 2022-09-06 21:32:11
>>kadenw+C1
Popular endorsement of harassment to the point of suicide seems like a worse sign, personally.

When it comes to threats to freedom of expression, I'm much more concerned about the religious right's abuse of government authority to censor education, ban books, and suppress the vote, than I am about private institutions taking steps to protect human life.

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3. Throwa+8s[view] [source] 2022-09-07 00:48:09
>>cautho+r2
A website was bullied off the internet because it showcased the horrible activities of horrible people. I'm far more concerned that a handful of Twitter users can memoryhole an entire community.
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4. flying+NE1[view] [source] 2022-09-07 12:29:08
>>Throwa+8s
You say that as if the people running KF didn’t know what the site was for. And a publicly known reason for that website’s existence is because bullies need a place to coordinate harassment.

Having the power to shut that place and therefore behavior down but choosing not to means they were complicit. Deplatforming works, the influx of new bullies shrinks when you make their place less public.

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5. usedne+dL1[view] [source] 2022-09-07 13:12:52
>>flying+NE1
That was unequivocally not a publicly known reason. There were thousands upon thousands of “lolcows” documented in kiwifarms and the sites culture strongly emphasized not “disturbing the grazing lolcows” or “taking things IRL.” That much was obvious for me as somebody who only visited the site a few times a year out of curiosity.
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6. a_shov+v62[view] [source] 2022-09-07 14:52:44
>>usedne+dL1
That may be obvious to you. Have you tried asking some of the people documented there what they think about the site's culture, and how well it discourages harassment against them?
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7. usedne+pn2[view] [source] 2022-09-07 16:07:23
>>a_shov+v62
I’ve been on the internet long enough to know what harassment is, and I went on Kiwi Farms enough to know the site culture. There will always be people laughing at other people on the internet and I would prefer it stays that way.
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