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1. hellom+dn[view] [source] 2022-08-29 15:00:55
>>todsac+(OP)
I guess everyone Garry has blocked on Twitter will not be applying to YC any time soon :)
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2. 12_thr+gP[view] [source] 2022-08-29 17:22:02
>>hellom+dn
Besides the "block anyone remotely progressive" approach to social media (including industry folks like Anil Dash [1]) - he seems extremely uncivil and rude [2]. And Sam Altman has explicitly referenced his politics as a reason for this decision [3].

This gives me the impression that there's a specific political agenda being advanced at YC ...

[1] https://twitter.com/anildash/status/1564285359755874304?s=20...

[2] https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FH6Y9DCUYAEkV1p?format=png&name=...

[3] https://twitter.com/sama/status/1564256798323851265

edit: deleted a not very clear link about certain politically charged individuals.

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3. 12_thr+AQ[view] [source] 2022-08-29 17:28:45
>>12_thr+gP
So, why the downvotes? We're not allowed to talk about this?
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4. dang+FQ[view] [source] 2022-08-29 17:28:59
>>12_thr+AQ
(Edit: the GP comment was edited after I wrote this - more about that below: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32642696.)

Hardened political rhetoric and seasoned talking points aren't on topic here (regardless of which way the political vector is pointing). If you check out the site guidelines, it should be clear why: https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html.

You don't have to agree with anyone's views but this style of argument is deathly to the curious conversation we want here. Curious conversation requires, among other things, respect across differences—wanting to learn more about how someone thinks, and why they think that way, and trusting that they have good reasons for all that even if, in the end, they're wrong. And, of course, you and your views deserve the same consideration.

If you want to argue against someone's views here (Garry's or anyone else's), you'll get much further by making your substantive points thoughtfully. We're trying to avoid the online callout/shaming culture here, at least to the extent possible on the open internet.

The culture of political attack goes very much the other way, of course—people save screenshots of the worst things they can find, bring them up at every opportunity, and so on. Guilt by association is another common tactic. None of this helps us really understand each other—anyone can be made to look bad that way, so it really doesn't have much persuasive power. It does get one's own side riled up (in a yay way) and the opposing side riled up (in a boo way), but riler-uppers are what we're trying to avoid on HN, because they destroy the curious conversation I was just talking about.

(I hope it's clear that all of the above should and does apply equally to opposing political sides.)

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5. caslon+OU[view] [source] 2022-08-29 17:48:54
>>dang+FQ
Out of curiosity, why don't you make "YC churn" announcements read-only, like job ads are?

There's not really much curious conversation when they happen, and not really a huge chance of it, either. As an example, the announcement of sama taking over was a hundred and fifty comments of almost exclusively "Congratulations!"

They're posts that are almost exclusively doomed, either to incurious compliments, insults, or needless pessimism; what questions that are asked usually don't get answered, so there wouldn't really be a loss in it anyway.

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6. dang+Ba1[view] [source] 2022-08-29 19:07:30
>>caslon+OU
I wouldn't call this a "churn announcement" - it's the biggest YC news in years. I guess I can think of a few different answers to your question. One is that since it's significant new information, it's on topic (job ads are the opposite of that). Another is that there's a special relationship between YC and the HN community, and it's good for the community to have space to discuss that. A third is that there is definitely no way that the community would support us trying to close such a topic to comments.

Also, job ads get placed on the front page by software. This submission got on the front page by upvotes like any other.

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7. Feroci+wE1[view] [source] 2022-08-29 21:53:51
>>dang+Ba1
It's definitely newsworthy and relevant to the community. I support the status quo of non interference (laissez-faire) by the mods into publishing status of this news story and your reasoning stated in this comment.
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