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>>todsac+(OP)
Anecdote: i backed pine64's first-ever Kickstarter and got two of their A+ boards (i think they were called). They claimed high performance and full HD video. In the end i couldn't get a single Android game, no matter how primitive, to run at more than a couple of frames per second and Netflix was too jittery to watch. They've been on my poo-list ever since.

About 18 months ago i pulled them back out and ran XFCE on one of them. It crashed with the X11 error (i kid you not): "event arrived before it was sent (your hardware is too slow!)" (going from memory - it might have been phrased differently). i ended up giving them away to someone who wanted to use one for a pihole server, and i was glad to be rid of them. Utter garbage, they were.

>>sgbeal+Ca
So you backed a developer-oriented project all about open source software and your test to see if it was garbage or not is to consume proprietary video content and play video games through virtualization?

>>HidyBu+me
These are things lots of people, even developers, do on their phones - play games and watch videos.

>>cridde+jk
Don't you think there's a difference between "it's annoying I can't watch full blown movies on this experimental phone" and "it's garbage because no Netflix"?

>>HidyBu+9l
It depends on what you were expecting. On their A64 Kickstarter they said the graphics capabilities are higher than the original XBox's level of performance. That might lead a person to expect it to play games well. The screenshot included a Netflix icon. The Kickstarter FAQ says it can play UHD 4K video. That might lead you to believe you could watch Netflix on it.

As I understand it, the phone is based on the A64 board.

On top of all this, on the PinePhone page they link to a video titled something like "This $200 phone can do ANYTHING!".

>>cridde+Op
It can play 4k videos and it can play games, but expecting it to play 4k videos through an unoptimized browser with DRM and play virtualized games is extremely disingenuous.

>>HidyBu+Sq
Are your feet sore from moving the goalposts that far?

>>TylerE+Jf1
Are you seriously telling me you expect an ARM board running mainline Linux to play virtualized Android games? This is beyond beyond disingenuous, is somebody paying you to write this or what?