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1. lordof+Hb[view] [source] 2022-07-29 23:58:52
>>gjsman+(OP)
I'm convinced Cloudflare is a giant anti-privacy man-in-the-middle attack on the entire web experience.

It would be a conspiracy theory to say they were created by a three letter government agency, but if I was running one of those three letter agencies, this is exactly the kind of company I'd setup and control. People just give them their TLS keys lol

If you use a VPN or just like browsing in privacy mode, it will make your life as difficult as possible by having you fill out multiple captchas. And even then, it will sometimes not let you through.

If you're running a website, please stop using Cloudflare.

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2. javajo+vf[view] [source] 2022-07-30 00:44:38
>>lordof+Hb
While I tend to agree with all of your post, I also have to admit that as a service provider it's nice to be protected from malefactors. If I had to point to the moral problem here its not Cloudflare's existence, but rather the lack of awareness that service providers have about the trade-offs they are making - very similar to the problem we have with "free" services like Google Analytics, or CDN hosting. In each case the programmer is trading away end-user privacy on an ongoing basis for transient developer convenience and a slightly cheaper-to-operate runtime with more failure modes. It's usually a bad trade, I think.
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