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1. carpen+Z3[view] [source] 2022-06-24 11:48:51
>>b112+(OP)
I can't wrap my head around how the printer market has turned into this absolutely dispicable, foul state that it is in right now.

Decades of innovation that have been invested, not to make a better product, but mostly on how to extract more and more money from their victims, I mean "customers".

I would like to own a printer again, but for printing something like once a month, I just can't financially justify spending several hundred bucks on a device that might, at the whim of the manufacturer, decide that the way I'm using it is not okay anymore, is probably designed to break after two years, requires me to sign up for a subscription service for ink, or whatever BS else the decision makers in this space come up with.

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2. danpal+N8[view] [source] 2022-06-24 12:21:08
>>carpen+Z3
> I can't wrap my head around how the printer market has turned into this absolutely dispicable, foul state that it is in right now.

This is the dying gasps of an industry that is mostly irrelevant in the modern age.

When I was growing up we always had a printer, and while ink wasn't cheap, it wasn't too bad, so we used it a lot and printed everything we needed. The industry grew to expect this, most households with a computer also owning a printer and regularly buying ink for it.

This isn't the case anymore. So much of our lives happens "digital-only" that printers aren't needed by most people, and those who do need them don't need as much ink. I have never owned a printer myself, and my parents still own one but buy ink on a yearly basis now.

The market should be shrinking naturally, and so every printer company is trying everything they possibly can to grow or at least keep from shrinking as much. In the panic they are in, it's understandable that this will lead to crappy business practices.

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3. pid-1+Mb[view] [source] 2022-06-24 12:39:26
>>danpal+N8
IDK, I'm in my mid 30s and I really can't remember printers being alright.
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4. pc86+He[view] [source] 2022-06-24 12:56:36
>>pid-1+Mb
I am the same age as you; when we were young the printers themselves were garbage. Constantly breaking, ink cartridges drying out quickly if you weren't printing regularly. Do they still have that damn ribbon thing inside of them? I seem to remember that being a constant source of pain for 13-15 year old me.

Now the printers, mechanically, seem pretty good. Some still feel cheap but not necessarily low quality. But all the firmware and software around them seems to be geared at whatever it takes to get you to spend a little more money. Stories like this one are exactly why I don't update my Brother TN-730 firmware.

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5. copper+UK[view] [source] 2022-06-24 14:54:15
>>pc86+He
I don't remember printers having ink back then. They were all laser. Inkjets came later, but they were seen as toys to print large banners.
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6. space_+B91[view] [source] 2022-06-24 16:10:07
>>copper+UK
My printer memories of the late 90's were of cheap Canon bubblejet printers. The ones that were cheaper to buy than replacement ink cartridges, to the point that it was cheaper to buy a new printer than it was to replace the ink. Good times.
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