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1. paol+B6[view] [source] 2022-06-22 10:10:41
>>dochtm+(OP)
We don't have to speculate, we've been through this already during the IE4 to IE6 era.

Microsoft just did whatever they wanted with the web "platform", and so will Google.

In Microsoft's case what they wanted was nothing. They weren't a web business, saw it as a threat to their platform leverage, and so just left it abandoned and stagnant for years.

Google is simultaneously better and worse: they won't leave it stagnant because the web is their platform, but on the other hand they have a lot more to gain by abusing control of it.

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2. wdb+y9[view] [source] 2022-06-22 10:33:20
>>paol+B6
Personally, I think Google already does whatever it wants similar to what Microsoft did. They do offer standards for discussion but it will implemented and expect other vendors to follow suit.
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3. remus+Dm[view] [source] 2022-06-22 12:07:39
>>wdb+y9
> They do offer standards for discussion but it will implemented and expect other vendors to follow suit.

Safari definitely does not just follow suit (see https://caniuse.com/?compare=chrome+102,safari+15.5&compareC... for example).

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4. wdb+nn[view] [source] 2022-06-22 12:12:23
>>remus+Dm
Luckily they don't :) In my opinion Chromium/Chrome is the new IE and not Safari
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5. horsaw+Up[view] [source] 2022-06-22 12:28:47
>>wdb+nn
I'm sorry - but this is just not a realistic take.

Call me when I can install Safari on linux (or any platform other than macOS/iOS).

Until then - the ugly truth is that Apple intentionally underfunds and underdevelops the browser because they see it as a fundamental risk to their control and revenue from the App store.

It's there because "they have to have a browser" not because they're doing anything novel or clever. And many of the things they refuse to implement aren't related to ads or Google's control at all - they're things that would have narrowed the gap between what a website can do on iOS, and what the App store apps could do.

Again - Apple is acting EXACTLY like microsoft here. Underinvesting in the browser because they see it as a fundamental risk to their best revenue stream - much like how MS ignored IE when the focus was all on local apps (the king of which was still MS office).

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6. timw4m+Ot[view] [source] 2022-06-22 12:52:49
>>horsaw+Up
KDE's Konqueror is a webkit browser, and there are others. Safari is not available on Linux, but it doesn't need to be.

I disagree that Apple is underinvesting: their slower, more deliberate pace can be an advantage: you can see the pitfalls of implementations in other browsers. I am not disagreeing that Apple has had their own share of bugs, though.

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