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1. Aspara+M7[view] [source] 2022-05-19 07:22:31
>>donsup+(OP)
They’re just one of several shiny fintech apps/websites running the same scam, a modern two-and-twenty on a ponzi — but with really nice UI.

Alice (alice.co / @alice_finance) is another prominent one that may have lost customer funds, which was also using the Anchor protocol. It’s unclear how much they lost, but it’s interesting that Do Kwon’s name is still an actual logo listed on their home page.

And Vertex Protocol (vertexprotocol.com / @vertex_protocol) recently raised $8.5m to launch a trading platform based on the Anchor protocol, but because their Phase 1 beta had just closed and the open launch was not planned until this summer, it looks like they may have just barely dodged the bullet?

What I’m really curious about are the new and (of course) unregulated “insurance” products meant to cover catastrophic crypto depegs, as happened to Terra/Luna. Unslashed (https://app.unslashed.finance/cover) is supposed to kick in after fourteen days, I believe. We’re not quite there yet, it’s barely a week so far. But I’m sure with this kind of implied loss reserves, it’ll be fine…

https://mobile.twitter.com/CurveFinance/status/1416392630754...

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2. headme+2e[view] [source] 2022-05-19 08:27:56
>>Aspara+M7
The thing that has shocked me about all of this over the last year or so is how seemingly easy it is to just start issuing debit cards to people.

Maybe there's more regulation than I realise (and the emperor has more layers of clothes than Joey Tribbiani), but I'm not seeing it.

I assumed issuance of payment methods was much more strictly controlled than this due to the risk of contagion if the issuer can't meet it's obligations after the transaction (are card payments instant delivery between institutions these days? I always assumed there was a clearing period in the background).

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3. MacsHe+Ay[view] [source] 2022-05-19 11:59:29
>>headme+2e
There are multiple physical card APIs, costing around 50¢ + shipping to provision cards. All you need is a photo ID and e-signature to start issuing unlimited cards with any name stamped on them in less than 10 minutes.

Notably, these cards require online funds verification and settlement for every transaction. Some cards you might get through a bank or major card company may not, for convenience sake. But these cards do, for the obvious reason.

They're essentially pre-paid cards that load instantly (at the point of transaction) from a larger balance the dev/company controls.

There are even multiple APIs for creating card issuing APIs, checking account issuing APIs, etc. These have itemized pricing that looks more like AWS/GC/Azure pricing and are more complicated to use, in the same way AWS is more complicated than running everything on a single Digital ocean droplet.

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