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1. perard+n3[view] [source] 2022-05-17 14:41:05
>>erohea+(OP)
“matching size and design of iPhone 13 Mini”

So, by all accounts, the iPhone mini has been an extremely slow seller.

https://www.macrumors.com/2022/04/21/iphone-13-mini-unpopula...

Why would that form factor succeed in the Android space?

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I see these meme on tech sites all the time: “oh phones are too big I just want something simple”. That is a valid sentiment that I think is shared by basically no average consumer. For a lot of people, phones are their primary computing devices, so a big screen is nice there. Bigger phones allow for more battery capacity. Aging populations like them because you can use screen zoom features to really blow up that text size without making the effective viewport too small.

And…people just like big stuff. I know that’s simplistic and a little condescending, but then look at SUV and truck sales.

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2. izacus+m9[view] [source] 2022-05-17 15:04:04
>>perard+n3
These "slow iPhone 13 mini" sales are more than all Google Pixel phones sold in a year. Think about that.

I don't understand when did the ability to choose a product fitting your preferences become a bad thing on HackerNews and modern American perception. Why is being able to buy niche products somehow not a worthy thing to be desired?

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3. reaper+5e[view] [source] 2022-05-17 15:23:01
>>izacus+m9
I don't understand when did the ability to choose a product fitting your preferences become a bad thing on HackerNews

Because so many on HN have been indoctrinated into the "scale at all costs" mentality.

It demonstrates the difference between HN and the real world.

On HN, if you can't serve a billion people, your product is niche. In the real world, billions of people earn a very nice living making niche products.

It's why so many people on HN don't understand Panic, or its PlayDate. They don't understand artisan anything. They've forgotten the whole hipster movement, which still exists in pockets of the world. They can't grok that there are companies that have been in business for hundreds of years making products one at a time — by hand.

"X doesn't scale" is HN for "I know nothing about how the world works."

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4. cortes+ik[view] [source] 2022-05-17 15:49:42
>>reaper+5e
> In the real world, billions of people earn a very nice living making niche products.

But rarely something as expensive to create as a smart phone.

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5. izacus+dz[view] [source] 2022-05-17 16:52:47
>>cortes+ik
Really? Because things like cabriolet cars, speciality cars, high-end audio equipment, luxury furniture and many others exist.

If anything, mobile phone market is exceedingly horrible because of consolidation into a single product with not much choice.

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6. cortes+vD[view] [source] 2022-05-17 17:12:47
>>izacus+dz
Maybe we could have a market for very high end phones that cost $3000, but I haven't seen anyone try to fill that niche yet. Maybe it isn't there?

Even if it was there, that doesn't mean the phone would be small. People who want small phones aren't necessarily wealthy, so they would only be going after the market for the intersection of 'wealthy + want small phone'... which might be a very small market and not worth pursuing.

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7. Zenbit+gh2[view] [source] 2022-05-18 06:54:13
>>cortes+vD
Samsung made some folding phone which were pretty close to $3,000 on release IIRC. Pushing-the-envelope android phones can reach eye watering prices, and early adopters always pay up too. Personally I would rather wait for the 3-4th generation of anything THAT wild as the tech was very much not ready for launch.

Grains of sand getting into the hinge and mandatory factory-installed screen protectors are not things I want to deal with on a purchase that expensive.

The current folding generation launching this year (4th Gen) is likely to be the next big thing, rumors are huge price drop and likely a more polished experience as production is ramping up for more units.

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