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>>jstanl+(OP)
I'm most curious how this impression is going to age over the next year or two, considering the new competition with the Pinephone Pro that's coming out. While Kudos to Purism is certainly due for developing the Librem 5 in the first place, and for kickstarting projects like Phosh[2] which is now used by many mobile Linux distros, they're really struggled (as mentioned re: timeline in this article) with shipping hardware.

Conversely, Pine64 hardware seems to have a pretty dedicated developer community among the various mobile Linux distros, and considering the significantly improved specs of the Pinephone Pro over the original model, I'm wondering how many people will opt for the even-more-expensive Librem 5 in the future after the Pro has been out for a bit and some of the early-adopter kinks have been worked out, considering the issues Purism has had seemed to have with reliably getting inventory out.

[1] https://www.pine64.org/pinephonepro/

[2] https://developer.puri.sm/Librem5/Software_Reference/Environ...

>>qchris+Na
However ... Pine64 (Pine Store Limited) is a Hong Kong based company, and with China's appetite for mass privacy infringements (see their social credit system), there could be a problem there in the future, especially since privacy is the main selling feature of these phones.

>>ameliu+aV
Pine64 doesn't provide any software.

>>megous+dg3
Can't hardware have backdoors? How about the firmware?

>>fsflov+x14
There's no Pine64 controlled firmware. There's no Pine64 controlled hardware in the phone, it's all sourced from other companies.

>>megous+X95
All of which are from China.

>>fsflov+0a6
And? Almost everything is made outside of my small country. :) I don't particularly trust FVEY countries either.

I'm quite fine knowing the HW well enough to trust it for my purposes, having spent many years with it at quite low levels, thank you.