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1. SkyMar+Me[view] [source] 2022-03-22 01:18:47
>>jstanl+(OP)
> The battery life seems short. I'm pretty sure that I charged it up to 99% when I plugged it in this afternoon. It's now 10pm and I just went to check something in Firefox and found that the battery has died already. And I haven't exactly been using it heavily. It's possible that I misunderstood how much I had charged it, but so far this is a bad sign.

Battery life is an area that may be difficult for smaller phone makers to compete on. I think Apple especially puts a ton of engineering effort and coordination into making iOS and their apps work efficiently with their hardware, reducing complexity, runtime cycles, and power consumption as much as possible, on top of already highly-efficient ARM hardware.

Over years of doing that (kaizen), the result is optimized hardware/software fusion with industry-leading battery life. But it seems like it takes a non-trivial amount of additional engineering time and effort to accomplish this, that will be difficult to match by smaller mobile tech startups.

I hope the open source community around Librem and Pine will be able to replicate that effort, but I'm not sure this kind of consistent incremental upgrade work is attractive enough to volunteer FOSS developers. And being maximally effective at it most certainly requires the parent company to coordinate the effort across hardware, software, internal teams, and external volunteers.

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2. yeetsf+sf[view] [source] 2022-03-22 01:26:56
>>SkyMar+Me
Maybe. Android works across tons of devices and the difference in battery life doesn't jump out to me compared to the fruit company. Linux on a laptop gets similar battery life to Windows in my experience, and that's without using kernel patches and crazy settings, etc.
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3. xvecto+Qf[view] [source] 2022-03-22 01:31:22
>>yeetsf+sf
Android phones have terrible battery efficiency compared to iPhones. The only reason you don't notice is because manufacturers cram in massive batteries to compensate.

Same with Linux/Windows versus Macs. It is only recently that Linux/Windows laptops have begun to approach Macs in terms of battery life, and their battery efficiency is still far behind, especially with Apple Silicon being a thing.

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4. p1neco+al[view] [source] 2022-03-22 02:39:30
>>xvecto+Qf
I don't really give a damn about battery /efficiency/. I care about battery life. The impact on my power bill of charging up a 5000mah battery vs a 2500mah battery is completely insignificant.

If Apples battery efficiency is so good they should release a phone with a 5000mah battery /as well as/ said efficiency and market their battery life that beats all their competitors by multiple days, I'm sure a lot of people would buy that in a heartbeat.

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5. Firmwa+np[view] [source] 2022-03-22 03:32:17
>>p1neco+al
Android OEMs constantly try releasing a bulky phone with a multi-day battery life, and it never pans out.
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6. mixedC+Os[view] [source] 2022-03-22 04:13:38
>>Firmwa+np
Xiaomi midrange phones are extremely successful outside of Europe and the US. They come standard with multi-day battery, headphone jack, IR blaster, microSD slots, multiple SIMs...
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