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1. albrol+l5[view] [source] 2022-02-08 17:12:20
>>mikeyo+(OP)
fwiw, it appears one of the named here is a YC Alum: https://news.ycombinator.com/user?id=il https://www.linkedin.com/in/unrealdutch/
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2. tiffan+Hn[view] [source] 2022-02-08 18:21:53
>>albrol+l5
Let's be fair to these individuals and not presume guilt.

In the US, it's "innocent until proven guilty".

Media is so quick to assume the person is guilty just because of an allegation.

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3. d23+nr[view] [source] 2022-02-08 18:36:41
>>tiffan+Hn
That's the standard for our criminal justice system, not for us as individuals. It sounds from the release that the justice department has a boatload of compelling evidence against them.
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4. tiffan+Hs[view] [source] 2022-02-08 18:42:38
>>d23+nr
> "It sounds from the release that the justice department has a boatload of compelling evidence against them."

You'd hope that before someone is arrested, the prosecutor has ample evidence to prove guilt.

I don't understand your point.

These individuals have not been proven guilty yet. Why are you editorializing their presumed guilt in this matter.

Note: I have no affiliation with these individuals nor case.

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5. hellom+lv[view] [source] 2022-02-08 18:53:19
>>tiffan+Hs
It's pretty normal for people to look at the evidence and be able to decide if someone was guilty or not.

If someone is on video shooting someone, it is a bit silly to say "Why are you editorializing their presumed guilt in this matter."

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6. dazilc+TK[view] [source] 2022-02-08 19:57:15
>>hellom+lv
Kyle Rittenhouse would like a word with you.
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7. 2OEH8e+2V[view] [source] 2022-02-08 20:40:22
>>dazilc+TK
My experience was that people did not look at the evidence- they jumped to a conclusion.
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8. ryan_l+T21[view] [source] 2022-02-08 21:15:09
>>2OEH8e+2V
Yeah, because if you happen to look at the evidence, the fact is that he took a gun across state lines, to "protect people's property" at a protest, and he ended up killing people, it would be pretty easy to come to the conclusion that he's guilty of at least manslaughter. Of course, he was charged with murder, and that's harder to prove. The fact that he was found not guilty doesn't mean he's innocent. It means he's not guilty of the crime they were prosecuting him for.

He's not someone I'd hire for anything, he's not someone I'd want my friends and family around. He's not someone I'd want attending any protest I was attending. He's not a good person, and he's a clear and present danger to society. These are the decisions that I, as an individual, am free to make because I'm not the government, and I don't have to abide by "innocent until proven guilty" for how I personally judge people.

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9. ahallo+ce1[view] [source] 2022-02-08 22:07:32
>>ryan_l+T21
You just proved the parent's point.
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