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>>foodst+(OP)
The fearmongering about Pluton feels very similar to the criticism that was levied against UEFI Secure Boot when it was being debuted. In the end, x86 systems didn't become any more locked down.

I predict that this will blow over, and won't be a big deal in a few years time once FOSS drivers for what is effectively just a new breed of TPM are released.

If in five years, it turns out I was wrong, I'll eat my hat. Although defining "my hat" by then might be difficult, as it'll probably be subscription based.

>>messe+sa
Were I to grant what you say, it is /still/ a load of anti-social, dystopian shit flung against the wall for FOSS devs to scrap off (if ever they may), keeping them from doing something more advantageous.

You only condone the poisoning of the well because you take for granted the pro-socially minded developers willing to sacrifice their time and effort to draw clean water for you.

Think of where we'd be if we didn't need to run to stand still.

>>nescio+mh
> Were I to grant what you say, it is /still/ a load of anti-social, dystopian shit flung against the wall for FOSS devs to scrap off (if ever they may), keeping them from doing something more advantageous.

> You only condone the poisoning of the well because you take for granted the pro-socially minded developers willing to sacrifice their time and effort to draw clean water for you.

If you're referring to my comment about drivers, then I'd like to remind you that a large amount of work done on the Linux kernel is paid, and isn't performed by volunteers.

And as for those that are volunteers, I don't take them for granted. I regularly donate to various FOSS projects. Related to this context, I'm currently a patreon supporter of marcan42's port of Linux to the M1 Mac, and have donated several hundred euro to OpenBSD over the past two years (not including donations from my hosting provider openbsd.amsterdam, which I'll plug here).

>>messe+oi
You seem to have not understood what I've said. Whatever good will you may extend, the attitude betrays the complacency of an alms-giver. I merely wish to point out how FOSS can be manipulated by such an attitude to provide a fig leaf -- in "a few years time" -- for the rent-seeking behavior I'd hope you condemn.

Let me also apologize for my manner. I'm inept at expressing what I think is important without alienating those that might be most receptive to it. Truly, I wish I could have said what I needed more gracefully. I didn't mean to give offense.