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1. messe+sa[view] [source] 2022-01-09 03:37:29
>>foodst+(OP)
The fearmongering about Pluton feels very similar to the criticism that was levied against UEFI Secure Boot when it was being debuted. In the end, x86 systems didn't become any more locked down.

I predict that this will blow over, and won't be a big deal in a few years time once FOSS drivers for what is effectively just a new breed of TPM are released.

If in five years, it turns out I was wrong, I'll eat my hat. Although defining "my hat" by then might be difficult, as it'll probably be subscription based.

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2. datafl+9f[view] [source] 2022-01-09 04:18:10
>>messe+sa
> In the end, x86 systems didn't become any more locked down.

I realize it was only introduced as of ~2012 and it's been 10 years, but I'm not sure we can draw a conclusion on this one just yet. Windows 11 took a huge leap in that direction so for all I know it might take another decade; it certainly doesn't look like they've given up on the idea of locking down the desktop just yet.

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3. gruez+dg[view] [source] 2022-01-09 04:28:39
>>datafl+9f
>it's been 10 years, but I'm not sure we can draw a conclusion on this one just yet.

seriously? 10 years is an eternity in tech, and if they really did lock down the desktop a few years from now with some new system (eg. pluton), I'm not really sure that you could say "I told you so" or "TPM caused the platform to be more locked down". It'd be like predicting some sort of smallpox attack by china in 2010, then claiming you got it right in 2020 because of corona. The only plausible scenario where you could plausibly blame TPM/UEFI is if OEMs suddenly decided to remove the ability to add user keys and/or disable secureboot.

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