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>>beezle+(OP)
So far in the last year or so, I've heard 0 reasons why I'd even need, want or benefit from Win11 over Win10. Tons of reasons in the negative column though. There isn't even anything to salivate over that might make you think it might be worth it to deal with the other tradeoffs. Hard pass.

>>cronix+Te
Unfortunately, there's one very big reason you'll need Windows 11: that Windows 10 won't get security updates forever. After October 14th, 2025, you'll need to "upgrade" to it to stay secure.

>>joseph+7f
That gives me four years for the tools that lock me to Windows to decide to port to literally any other OS.

>>Initia+Nk
After 30 years on Windows I switched this month to Linux, for pretty much the same reason. It's great. And it feels so fast. All my software exists natively on Linux (minecraft and game emulators for the kids, KNIME, Intellij, and Blender is a lot faster on Linux). No Word or PowerPoint, but there's Libre Office and it's good enough.

Who'd have thought that 2021 would be the year of Linux on the desktop. Not because it has gradually improved (it has), but because the alternative has declined so much.

>>ArnoVW+TO
With Google Docs, Microsoft Office (maybe besides Excel) is pretty much redundant.

>>francz+I31
I will stick with MS Office. I can use it when disconnected from everything, and (note hyperbole, but the cynicism is real) I avoid the creepy feeling that Google is logging every mouse movement and keystoke I make for teh ads.

In fact I welcome my evil Microsoft overlord any day before I use something from Google. I see MS as the lesser of two evils.

>>Fourth+he1
> I avoid the creepy feeling that Google is logging every mouse movement and keystoke I make for teh ads.

Microsoft is doing it too:

https://www.pcworld.com/article/423165/how-to-turn-off-windo...

There's still Linux.

>>a5aAqU+Hj1
Always with the Linux. I can't use Linux, I work in a Microsoft world. I can turn off the keylogger, and virtually anything else I don't want/like. I cannot (assuming I used their products) stop Google from storing my (MY!!) data on their infrastructure and having their way with it.

>>Fourth+Ag2
Have you tried libre office?

And if you really need offline editing, you can still have all the pros of Linux + office if you install a Windows VM escape hatch just for Word.

>>rangun+uq2
Yes I've tried Libre. ODT files don't play well with MS Office. Pivot tables in Calc are... frustrating. No OneNote, no Outlook, no Visio. Linux doesn't work on my hardware, and Visual Studio doesn't work on Linux.

The distribution fragmentation... I'm expected to install flavour X or Y of Linux not actually knowing before I start that my hardware even supports it? Brain = explode.

Joining a community (Linux) that stomps all over people that have a dissenting view (I actually like Windows - have done since I started using it in 1990) is philosophically not a community I want part of (Stallman is an exception I have a lot of time and respect for).

A VM adds complexity - why would I do that when native Windows is pain-free and just works?

And no, I don't "need" offline editing, I just want it. After all the cloud is a computer just like mine - that happens to belong to someone else. The cloud introduces a risk of data theft and complete data loss. And yes, probability is low, but impact and exposure are both very VERY high. I don't run that risk at all using my own hardware.

>>Fourth+yL2
Oh boy, don't know if I read that correctly, but it seemed a bit heavy on emotions from your side. It's just an OS and my comment was just a recommendation. And these are just some observations for my own self interest, please read these in a neutral tone:

> ODT files don't play well with MS Office

Can't you save in docx format from within libre office?

> Linux doesn't work on my hardware, and Visual Studio doesn't work on Linux.

Could you elaborate on these two points?

> The distribution fragmentation...

The downside of a strong open source community is that you are spoiled for choice, yes.

> that stomps all over people that have a dissenting view

Not Linux specific I'd say. There are people like that everywhere.

> why would I do that when native Windows is pain-free and just works?

If Windows works perfectly fine for you, then yes, Linux + VM doesn't make much sense. For the rest of us that are not fans of how Windows runs things, it's usually a last resort option and very few people use it.

> I don't "need" offline editing, I just want it.

Sorry, that's what I meant, more like either/or want/need.

> And yes, probability is low, but impact and exposure are both very VERY high.

Definitely, that's why you'll find lots of people in the Linux community that run their own NAS at home and have lots of fun with it.