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>>beezle+(OP)
So far in the last year or so, I've heard 0 reasons why I'd even need, want or benefit from Win11 over Win10. Tons of reasons in the negative column though. There isn't even anything to salivate over that might make you think it might be worth it to deal with the other tradeoffs. Hard pass.

>>cronix+Te
Unfortunately, there's one very big reason you'll need Windows 11: that Windows 10 won't get security updates forever. After October 14th, 2025, you'll need to "upgrade" to it to stay secure.

>>joseph+7f
That gives me four years for the tools that lock me to Windows to decide to port to literally any other OS.

>>Initia+Nk
That has been my thinking as well. I officially migrated from my Windows PC and my MacBook Pro to Linux (Pop!_OS on a Framework laptop) this year. Both companies have been slowly showing signs that their values are drifting away from things I care about (ownership, control, privacy). I'm willing to budge a little to accommodate alternate viewpoints, but it's been clear that they've picked a direction and their tanks will just keep crushing each of the lines in the sand.

>>canada+XC
I have Pop!_OS on a Framework laptop as well and if it wasn't a project laptop meant entirely for the purpose of being a project laptop and test bed for a few things I would chuck it out the window. In the reality of actually using the computer every single thing about my 5 year old MacBook Pro (the one everyone loves to hate) is better except maybe the keyboard, and that's not as cut and dry as the internet would pretend.

Everything works except everything that doesn't work well. Fractional scaling is a mess, integer scaling is not much better. YouTube on Firefox can barely play 1080p videos. Scrolling is anything but smooth, and the system doesn't appear to be doing much drawing on the GPU at all. When connected to an external 4k monitor running at 1.5x scale (how I use it with Windows and macOS) the system gets really slow.

Wayland is better performance wise, but at 1.5x scale (the best overall balance for the screen size and resolution) all electron based apps, which rely on xwayland, are blurry, and these days that's a lot of apps (including Slack, VS Code, and Zettlr which I run on all my systems). Kernel and driver support is mostly there except for the frequent regressions, so some features will in one version will break on the next kernel version, but it's fixed in the next next version, and that is not good enough. Power consumption on use is decent, but battery drain on sleep is atrocious even if you enable "deep sleep" which makes the machine take 5+ seconds to wake up.

Meanwhile Gnome insists on hiding as many settings from you as possible, so to set up CalDav contact syncing, which is managed by Gnome, I had to install an additional email app I won't use because the Gnome account manager doesn't bother to expose a UI to manage the account directly. And if I screw up the settings in the mail client Geary, which otherwise works well and is what I use, I have to delete the account and start over because there's no UI I can find to view and edit the server settings. It's completely ridiculous.

So the Pop!_OS team has built a really nice looking UI and a pretty good overall user experience (best I've had on Linux over the years), but it's all on top of a big pile of half working garbage. So it's simultaneously a really nice UI compared to my Windows 10 machine while being entirely frustrating to use.

>>scbloc+7V
I beg you to give OpenSUSE Tumbleweed with KDE, in the form of Gecko Linux Rolling, a try for a much more polished experience.

Tumbleweed, like Arch, is a rolling release so unlike the Debian based distros you'll always have the latest drivers and updates (development progress on Linux moves fast so why be stuck on outdated packages? I really can't in good conscience recommend PC users Debian/Ubuntu distros for a great experience), but unlike Arch, it's without sacrificing stability since its packages are tested so it's much less likely that an update will break something.

The developer of Gecko Linux Rolling, takes Tumbleweed and makes it desktop friendly by including non-OSS repos, non-OSS fonts, and non-OSS codecs plus other tweaks and creature comforts that turn make it easier to have a pleasant experience after the installation.

Trackpad is still not as polished as Windows or Mac but that's universal on Linux except Elementary OS.