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1. silisi+F4[view] [source] 2021-12-12 19:50:36
>>hn_thr+(OP)
Sounds like you basically want political debate, but only among smart and/or well educated people?

It's an interesting idea for sure, but I'm not sure how or if such a thing can exist. Moderation becomes a headache, and well, a lot of truly brilliant people I've met in life have zero interest in debating it. How do you keep out the YT commenters, Fox News or r/politics commenters, etc?

It would be interesting if HN had some bucket like /offtopic, for things that are flamebaity and removed from the main view, but I fear it would attract the aforementioned people who only ever troll there, and dang probably having zero interest in mod'ing it.

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2. pjmorr+H7[view] [source] 2021-12-12 20:13:43
>>silisi+F4
> It would be interesting if HN had some bucket like /offtopic, for things that are flamebaity and removed from the main view, but I fear it would attract the aforementioned people who only ever troll there, and dang probably having zero interest in mod'ing it.

What if, along with the '/offtopic' bucket there were participation criteria that could be moderated by other /offtopic participants? Not my wheelhouse, but something like '/offtopic' threads are only readable by HN members, only editable by members in good standing, presence of an 'evict the troll' button that disallowed further comments on a thread if enough users press it about a given comment/user.

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3. mschus+Yc[view] [source] 2021-12-12 20:50:20
>>pjmorr+H7
> presence of an 'evict the troll' button that disallowed further comments on a thread if enough users press it about a given comment/user.

Such features will be abused by trolls, and that sooner than later. Case in point: Twitter's recent new policy about doxxing, that was instantly (as in, not even 24 hours after release) abused by a bunch of far-right mobs to silence BLM, antifa and feminist accounts.

Systems that ban people without a human (with decent training, context awareness and time to properly judge) in the loop should be straight out banned because of the abuse potential.

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4. JasonF+eg[view] [source] 2021-12-12 21:14:01
>>mschus+Yc
I'm going to contest that applying a policy against doxxing to people who were in fact doxxing should be described as "abuse". It would be more accurate to say that applying the policy fairly led to unanticipated consequences.
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