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1. _ugfj+z2[view] [source] 2021-06-12 07:29:54
>>hyzyla+(OP)
You really don't need anything fancy to implement a queue using SQL. You need a table with a primary id and a "status" field. An "expired" field can be used instead of the "status". We used the latter because it allows easy retries.

1. SELECT item_id WHERE expire = 0. If this is empty, no items are available.

2. UPDATE SET expire = some_future_time WHERE item_id = $selected_item_id AND expire = 0. Then check whether UPDATE affected any rows. If it did, item_id is yours. If not, loop. If the database has a sane optimizer it'll note at most one document needs locking as the primary id is given.

All this needs is a very weak property: document level atomic UPDATE which can return whether it changed anything. (How weak? MongoDB could do that in 2009.)

Source code at https://git.drupalcode.org/project/drupal/-/blob/9.2.x/core/... (We cooked this up for Drupal in 2009 but I am reasonably sure we didn't invent anything new.)

Of course, this is not the fastest job queue there is but it is quite often good enough.

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2. hughrr+gc[view] [source] 2021-06-12 09:18:43
>>_ugfj+z2
Oh please stop using databases as queues. I spent a disproportionate amount of time in the last 20 years undoing that decision. It doesn’t scale at all well.
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3. blowsk+gr[view] [source] 2021-06-12 12:16:41
>>hughrr+gc
You’re dealing with survivorship bias - those companies whose products were successful enough that they needed your services. You don’t speak to the teams who went bankrupt because they spent too much time fiddling with RabbitMQ, when Postgres would have been fine.

As always, there are trade offs, no silver bullets.

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4. ikiris+Ac1[view] [source] 2021-06-12 19:27:36
>>blowsk+gr
You say that as if rabbitmq takes more than an 8th grader to set up in a few hours?
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5. Gordon+9i1[view] [source] 2021-06-12 20:27:52
>>ikiris+Ac1
To be fair, you can pull and run the Docker image in a few minutes, and the defaults will work out-of-the-box for a lot of folks.

If you don't need clustering, RabbitMQ really is pretty simple to setup.

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