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1. _ugfj+z2[view] [source] 2021-06-12 07:29:54
>>hyzyla+(OP)
You really don't need anything fancy to implement a queue using SQL. You need a table with a primary id and a "status" field. An "expired" field can be used instead of the "status". We used the latter because it allows easy retries.

1. SELECT item_id WHERE expire = 0. If this is empty, no items are available.

2. UPDATE SET expire = some_future_time WHERE item_id = $selected_item_id AND expire = 0. Then check whether UPDATE affected any rows. If it did, item_id is yours. If not, loop. If the database has a sane optimizer it'll note at most one document needs locking as the primary id is given.

All this needs is a very weak property: document level atomic UPDATE which can return whether it changed anything. (How weak? MongoDB could do that in 2009.)

Source code at https://git.drupalcode.org/project/drupal/-/blob/9.2.x/core/... (We cooked this up for Drupal in 2009 but I am reasonably sure we didn't invent anything new.)

Of course, this is not the fastest job queue there is but it is quite often good enough.

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2. pjmlp+5e[view] [source] 2021-06-12 09:42:14
>>_ugfj+z2
Yeah, most of the NoSQL solutions boil down to not learning how powerful SQL and its programming extensions are.
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3. kasey_+hq[view] [source] 2021-06-12 12:03:37
>>pjmlp+5e
That’s a bit of rewriting history. NoSql, particularly document style stores came about at least as much as a reaction to the overweight policies & orms the sql world has made rampant at the time.

You’d be trying to store a tiny bit of simple state and all the books/articles would have you standing up read only views & stored procedures for all your crud ops. The document stores came along with a fresh perspective and easy scaling.

Then their were the columnar stores and time-series stores that really did solve the newer scale problems in ways the existing sql stores didn’t.

I’m a sql guy through and through but it’s important to recognize the nosql movement was a reaction to real pain points. Also it made the sql databases better.

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