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1. mrtksn+l3[view] [source] 2021-05-15 00:49:38
>>demail+(OP)
TikTok is the greatest creativity tools I've seen in years and I am fascinated how people are trying to downplay or outright dismiss it because of their nationalistic or political feelings.

It's like watching fundamentalist trying to preserve their purity when their kosher brands are racing to imitate the features of the forbidden brand.

Hearing the "underage girls dancing and lip syncing, no thanks" line repeated fills me with a similar rage that I get when I hear some racist stereotype.

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2. dang+I5[view] [source] 2021-05-15 01:14:51
>>mrtksn+l3
Please don't take HN threads into flamewar—nationalistic, political, religious, or otherwise (you hit all three here). If you want to say what you think is great about TikTok or creative things people are doing, that's wonderful; please don't pack it with flamebait. That only makes things worse.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

> I got my HN account locked when I was begging people to

I don't know what "locked" means but that is not at all an accurate description of how HN accounts get moderated.

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3. mrtksn+x6[view] [source] 2021-05-15 01:21:26
>>dang+I5
It was rate limited as I was trying to explain why I thought that it was wrong to blok websites and apps.

Okay, I am removing the part about the recent political events. I think it is important and relevant but I get that it is off limits so I won't talk about it.

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4. dang+27[view] [source] 2021-05-15 01:27:54
>>mrtksn+x6
It's not so much "off limits", it's about comment quality. Low-information, high-indignation comments are not what we want here.

As topics become more divisive, comments trend sharply in that direction, so it's important to be mindful of what sort of thread your comment is likely to lead to.

That's why we have this guideline: "Comments should get more thoughtful and substantive, not less, as a topic gets more divisive." (https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html)

See also https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&sor...

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5. mrtksn+K7[view] [source] 2021-05-15 01:36:45
>>dang+27
Thank you for the follow up. I am not trying to push it but I'm failing to understand how I can express my opinions and experience about governments blocking apps and websites. What would make a comment describing what happened in Turkey and asking people to reconsider their support for app and website blocking in the name of claimed greater good a high quality comment?

This is my second time I fail at this. If this is not banned speech or undesired opinion, do you have any tips to improve my comment quality on the issue?

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6. dang+si[view] [source] 2021-05-15 03:46:35
>>mrtksn+K7
Ok, I hear you and believe that you're asking in good faith. Let's break it down:

> TikTok is the greatest creativity tools I've seen in years and I am fascinated

Good, interesting, curious. A great start!

> how people are trying to downplay or outright dismiss it

Veers from curious to indignant. This is the point where things start to go wrong.

> because of their nationalistic or political feelings

Flamebait

> It's like watching fundamentalist trying to preserve their purity

Flamebait escalation

> when their kosher brands are racing to imitate

Double flamebait escalation

> Hearing the "underage girls dancing and lip syncing, no thanks" line

Yet more flamebait

> fills me with a similar rage

Indignation and flamebait

> that I get when I hear some racist stereotype

Flamebait. By the time we reach the end of a comment like this, anyone who was flammable is on fire.

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