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1. buzzer+m7[view] [source] 2021-03-28 19:24:05
>>femfos+(OP)
> I don't have a better word readily available than sexism for trying to talk about patterns like this but when I use the word sexism

I appreciate the effort to think of a better word than sexism. My question is, is this even sexism at all? How many men can get publicly denounced as “sexists” and have their life ruined because they didn’t speak carefully enough, before it is simply just “smart” rather than “sexist” to be extra careful with how you speak to women.

To take the example to an extreme just to illustrate the point: If, in a hypothetical world, men served jail time for making eye contact with women, would it be sexist for men to stare at their feet when women are around?

I am 100% convinced that sexism does exist and is not all that uncommon (I’ve seen my wife deal with it a bit in the workplace). I’m just not convinced this is an example of it. Seems more like it’s the “safe” choice for a man in 2021. Both men and women would benefit if we worked to make it not that way.

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2. dalbas+nj[view] [source] 2021-03-28 20:24:05
>>buzzer+m7
>>My question is, is this even sexism at all?

There is a danger of getting overly semantic, but also a danger of ignoring the importance of semantics to perspective here. Sexism as opposed to sexists. Sexism, using the term as the the GP does, is how they behave towards or speak to her. That's what sexism is regardless of why it is. It affects her or the workplace the same way whether it is because of "exclusionary assholes" or unintended chilling effects.

Gravity in a box is equivalent to acceleration.

That said, you have a point too. From your (me also) perspective, there's a snookered conclusion to this story. Inasmuch as Twitter mobs are scary, some people are opting out of joining the girls for a drink.. sometimes advisably.

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3. robert+hp[view] [source] 2021-03-28 20:58:03
>>dalbas+nj
> Sexism, using the term as the the GP does, is how they behave towards or speak to her. That's what sexism is regardless of why it is.

This is incredibly flawed. It can never be behaviour observed in a vacuum. A behaviour's motivation in context is the only thing to observe and - potentially - classify as sexism.

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