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1. renewi+17[view] [source] 2021-02-13 18:40:05
>>lazycr+(OP)
The WHO is a useless organization. For political reasons, it will be necessary to engage, but hopefully US authorities will not treat it as an information source.

The US should use its own primary sources in future to evaluate disease spread. China will lie to the WHO and the WHO will protect it.

But to know the truth, we should use our modern equivalents of Key Hole. There is no truth but that which you have examined yourself.

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2. the-du+6b[view] [source] 2021-02-13 19:09:08
>>renewi+17
I watched the WHO press briefings in about the first month.

If the Western world would have done what the WHO advised at the time, we all more or less would have a COVID stuation like the Chinese have for some time.

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3. katbyt+Oc[view] [source] 2021-02-13 19:20:33
>>the-du+6b
Could you elaborate on what that situation is?
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4. kergon+Dd[view] [source] 2021-02-13 19:27:37
>>katbyt+Oc
Mask early, serious lockdown as soon as it becomes serious, and don’t end lockdowns before numbers are way low. We masked late, put lockdowns in place late if at all, and ended them way too early, which means that some countries went through several ones. And we’re not through yet.

That said, I don’t share the optimism of the parent poster. This would be a heavy burden in terms of freedom and human rights for a result that is far from certain. There have been some resurgences, the extent of which is of course unknown because the truth would be damageable to China. And there is no knowing whether the next variant would start it all over again, in which it would be back to square one.

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5. aksss+jf[view] [source] 2021-02-13 19:40:10
>>kergon+Dd
I’m not sure the federal government has the plenary power to enforce such things in the United States. So it was never an option. Authoritarian governments or single-state nations are better able to mandate behavior.

The lockdowns, even as implemented, extracted an enormous toll on small businesses and mental health.

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6. kergon+Rg[view] [source] 2021-02-13 19:52:58
>>aksss+jf
> I’m not sure the federal government has the plenary power to enforce such things in the United States.

I am certain it hasn’t. But the same reasoning applies for state governments. Having public health decisions taken at the county level is sheer madness.

> The lockdowns, even as implemented, extracted an enormous toll on small businesses and mental health.

This is entirely true, and I hope this will make people and governments take health issues and depression more seriously. Now, we don’t have an alternative earth to experiment, but whether one strict lockdown for 6 months followed by progressive reopening is better or worse for people and the economy compared to a succession of waves and partial lockdowns with no end in sight should certainly be discussed.

This is even more skewed in countries that do not have a proper safety net and where people have the choice between going to work ill or not having a job.

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