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>>notion+(OP)
It made things worse and we ended the experiment after a couple days. I don't have links handy right now but may try to dig them up later*. It turns out that there's no faster way to politicize everything than to try something that simplistic. Wherever the optimum is for regulating the intense pressures HN is under, it's much less obvious than that.

It was a success in the sense that we learned a lot. If anyone wants to know about that, a lot of it is in the explanations here:

https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=false&so...

https://hn.algolia.com/?sort=byDate&dateRange=all&type=comme...

Some good threads to start with might be https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21607844 and https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22902490.

These explanations have become pretty stable by now—stable enough that I repeat myself incessantly: https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&que...

*Edit: here's where we called it off: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13131251

>>dang+c7
it turns out that enforcing "no politics" is often a political stance!

>>kbar13+Jk
Yes, in large part as it is a policy biased toward status quoism. Those with complaints against the status quo, reasonably or otherwise, are disadvantaged if discussion and debate are restricted.

>>dredmo+yv
Problem is that attempts at change are important, so fights about what should change and in what direction get very very vicious. To use a non-political example: Some new starters want to switch to Rust, some lifers don't want to have to learn yet another toolset or be made redundant. The stakes are future career prospects and continued employment respectively. Imagine how much higher the stakes can be when you think your political opponents are plotting your genocide? (which is a real, if fringe, belief of some on both the American left and American right)

On the other hand, the status quo at least is known and not as bad as it could be (e.g. Bronze Age Collapse)...

>>concor+d31
Fads, or fad-generating phenomena, seem often to serve as highly-perceptible signifiers of deeper, hard-to-assess social and political patterns and groups, operating in a strongly information theoretic manner.

https://old.reddit.com/r/dredmorbius/comments/62uroa/clothin...