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1. dang+c7[view] [source] 2021-01-15 01:14:35
>>notion+(OP)
It made things worse and we ended the experiment after a couple days. I don't have links handy right now but may try to dig them up later*. It turns out that there's no faster way to politicize everything than to try something that simplistic. Wherever the optimum is for regulating the intense pressures HN is under, it's much less obvious than that.

It was a success in the sense that we learned a lot. If anyone wants to know about that, a lot of it is in the explanations here:

https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=false&so...

https://hn.algolia.com/?sort=byDate&dateRange=all&type=comme...

Some good threads to start with might be https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21607844 and https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22902490.

These explanations have become pretty stable by now—stable enough that I repeat myself incessantly: https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&que...

*Edit: here's where we called it off: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13131251

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2. cmroan+So[view] [source] 2021-01-15 03:40:47
>>dang+c7
As an Australian, I see most political HN discussion revolving around US interests. For the most part this is to be expected, but in the rare cases that other country's politics enter HN (particularly new laws that affect tech), there seems to be a heavy bias toward comparison to the US's laws, so much so, that I think I understand more of the US laws than I do my own! Again, this is probably to be expected with the big tech companies largely residing in SV...

But it sure does stand out when HN comments are made with the assumption that the fellow HN readership is US. Any time I've tried to highlight how this looks from the outside it's generally met with downvotes, to the point that I self censor comments that I otherwise feel could have enriched this global community.

So, maybe there is the chance in your comments @dang to make a reminder that it serves a global community? It might help soften feelings of any comments that are heavily partisan.

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3. TheSpi+GM[view] [source] 2021-01-15 08:04:28
>>cmroan+So
I'm in Tasmania, and am glued to US political news at the moment.

I think some of us are acutely interested because what's happening now is historically significant and could have very interesting(?) downstream effects.

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4. ethbr0+XX[view] [source] 2021-01-15 09:51:11
>>TheSpi+GM
I've always been curious about this, as an American, and specifically as an American who experienced the 2016 US election results from Tokyo.

The US outputs a massive amount of media, news, and culture. But how much does it actually influence other countries, at the personal level?

I'd assume, in order of impact: (1) visa / immigration, (2) free trade deals, (3) sanctions, ?

Is there any truth to the "US sets world tone on climate change, etc"? It seems like even the smallest countries are more than happy to make their own choices (in their own best interests!) when the US isn't trying to compel a position.

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5. TheSpi+h31[view] [source] 2021-01-15 10:40:14
>>ethbr0+XX
I'm more interested in the collective psychology of a nation that voted Trump in to the US presidency. Also the individuals that constitute it.

Definitely looking less and less like the US sets the tone for much at all, but Australia and the USA have an important military alliance and we're part of the Five Eyes.

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6. sudost+GP1[view] [source] 2021-01-15 15:53:55
>>TheSpi+h31
Hah, if you ever figure out that collective psychology - please let me know. My family is something like 15 generations into being Americans in the south, and if there's one thing I've learned, it's that we don't understand each other at all. In fact, I'm always amused at how commonly I encounter sentiment of "I don't understand the mindset of anyone who lives anywhere other than here or why they would live somewhere else" (with "here" being a region of approximately 15 counties in western part of North Carolina). Even my younger cousins, who have traveled a bit and lived their whole life with the internet have said the same.

I'm the odd-duck for having lived in Seattle for 5 years. But I eventually moved back of course - because if I'm being honest with myself: Even I don't understand the mindset of anyone who lives anywhere other than here or why they would live somewhere else.

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