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1. andrey+AN[view] [source] 2020-07-07 18:23:11
>>tosh+(OP)
I find it weird that so many people seem to think that "attitudes and political commitments that tend to weaken our norms of open debate and toleration of differences in favor of ideological conformity" (I guess this is a fancy way of saying cancel culture?) is a big problem, because frankly I have no idea how big a problem it is. Where are the statistics on this? How many are actually impacted by it? There are many articles citing examples and saying how dangerous it is (https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2018/06/25/online-shaming-d...), and yes there are certainly such examples, but are these just outliers? Is this like air travel, where really for the most part it's ok for people to speak their minds and people get overly freaked out because of rare events?

Actually curious to hear what people on here think about this.

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2. ciaran+iO[view] [source] 2020-07-07 18:26:51
>>andrey+AN
What kind of data are you looking for? Number of people fired for a tweet? Number of colleagues shunned for not being woke enough?
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3. andrey+fQ[view] [source] 2020-07-07 18:37:27
>>ciaran+iO
Yes, something along those lines. It's not like it's impossible to categorize and quantify and catalogue 'cancel culture' events -- even if the result is somewhat subjective , it's better than just this vague belief based on rare examples. I mean honestly, is this 'cancel culture' really a thing, or it is mostly celebrities sometimes being criticized (at times rightly by sensible progressives, at times wrongly by overly woke people) that somehow has many on HN and a whole lot of people so anxious?
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4. SpicyL+SR[view] [source] 2020-07-07 18:45:12
>>andrey+fQ
It's not about just the celebrities. People are anxious that they, personally, might be fired or lose friends if they don't believe the right things.
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