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1. blueda+5i[view] [source] 2020-06-22 13:55:51
>>itcrow+(OP)
Stop messing with people, and this won't happen. I don't feel bad for the police.
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2. banads+xA[view] [source] 2020-06-22 15:34:50
>>blueda+5i
I too dislike hyper aggressive militarized police who act above the law. But anyone who makes facile generalizations about entire groups of people is merely mirroring the problem, not helping it.

Edit: "populations" -> "groups of people"

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3. enrage+PE[view] [source] 2020-06-22 15:54:41
>>banads+xA
Normally I agree, but this is one of those situations where the problem goes far beyond "a few bad apples". The entire police culture in the United States is built on the "good" cops not reporting, fiercely defending, or even lying to provide cover for the bad ones. And at that point, every person who tolerates the bad behaviors ends up enabling them, and therefore become complicit in them.
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4. banads+zM[view] [source] 2020-06-22 16:28:40
>>enrage+PE
>not reporting, fiercely defending, or even lying to provide cover for the bad ones. And at that point, every person who tolerates the bad behaviors ends up enabling them, and therefore become complicit in them.

Precisely the same mentality is present in many of the most crime ridden neighborhoods in the US.[1]

Are you able to think objectively for a moment, and see how your reaction to police doing that, is similar the police's reaction to criminals doing that?

[1]https://youtu.be/nFhWpTKvD8E

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5. teddyh+zN[view] [source] 2020-06-22 16:32:58
>>banads+zM
Classic whataboutism.

EDIT: The commented post was edited after I wrote my original above comment. Now it’s more like victim-blaming.

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6. banads+hO[view] [source] 2020-06-22 16:36:07
>>teddyh+zN
When two things are directly interrelated (attitudes among police and attitudes among criminals), are we not allowed to discuss them both? Why not? Seems like you're trying to purposefully shun context, which isn't a practical way of understanding reality.
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7. teddyh+B11[view] [source] 2020-06-22 17:31:14
>>banads+hO
You might be trying to explain the behavior of police, but it sounds like you’re excusing it. Discussing causal relationships can sometimes be useful for finding a solution, and sometimes not, but must be done carefully if at all in tense situations.
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8. banads+lX7[view] [source] 2020-06-24 16:08:10
>>teddyh+B11
What precisely did I say that makes you think I'm trying to excuse, rather than explain? Is it merely the fact that I am not completely overwhelmed with rage against everyone who has the same job as the people who killed George Floyd and others?

Often times in intense situations, maintaining objective emotional detachment rather than being overwhelmed by emotional knee jerk reactions can mean the difference between life and death, or a positive outcome and a negative one.

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9. teddyh+y1a[view] [source] 2020-06-25 06:51:20
>>banads+lX7
> What precisely did I say that makes you think I'm trying to excuse, rather than explain?

By only pointing a finger to the other side, you strongly hinted that the behavior of citizens was not only the cause of the behavior of police, you implied that it was also the solution to the problem of the behavior of police. This causal link may or may not be partially true, but nobody really cares about the cause, unless it helps with providing a solution to the problem. By only pointing to the cause, you imply that the solution to the problem lies there too, which, in this case, is both very questionable, and classic victim-blaming.

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