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>>danso+(OP)
> “I blame myself,” she kept saying. “I never let him out on Halloween. A bunch of Black boys together. I shouldn’t have let him out. But he begged me.”

Notice that while average white parents might worry about criminals before letting their kids out on the street, the black parents worry (with good reason) about the police.

(Just to spell it out: this is why so many BLM activists feel comfortable saying "abolish the police" or "defund the police", because from their point of view the police are the people most likely to assault or kill them or their children on the street, more so than random criminals)

> “Young teens or pre-teens of color were handcuffed, arrested, or held at gunpoint while participating in age-appropriate activities such as running, playing with friends, high-fiving, sitting on a stoop, or carrying a backpack.”

This is child abuse.

>>pjc50+Ck
> from their point of view the police are the people most likely to assault or kill them or their children on the street, more so than random criminals

That point of view is just factually incorrect. It’s like thinking that the way to get rich is to become a movie star. Sure it might happen but that’s not the normal way.

>>ponker+yA
Do you have data points to disprove it? I'm not aware of any data on how often police engage in physical altercations with civilians. One of the points the article makes is that the NYPD actively misrepresents such altercations that could cast the department in a bad light.

Stop and frisk policies amount to codifying assault, in my opinion.

>>lukewr+QG
As to murder:

White Murder victims: 3,499 (2,854 of the victims were killed by other whites)

Black murder victims: 2,870 (2,570 of the victims were killed by other blacks)

2019 police killings by race:

White deceased: 370

Black deceased: 235

>>throwa+YK
First, the fact that you are only 10 times more likely to die from a civilian as from a police officer is an appallingly bad ratio. That ratio should be over 100:1, not 10:1, and certainly not 9:1.

This conversation is missing another statistic: The percent of citizens who are also LEOs, which I'm seeing is about 1 in 300. Which means your chances of dying during an encounter with a random civilian are about 30 times less than your chance of dying during an encounter with a LEO. I cannot begin to express how deeply fucked up that is.

Your chances of encountering a bear in the woods are very low, but once you have done so, your focus should be almost entirely on the bear until the interaction has resolved itself. Any training you had should be employed. You should try to educate any hiking friends just in case they find themselves in such a situation.

Cops should not be a situation. They should not be like bears.

>>hinkle+tS
This is comparing murder to every instance of police killing someone, justified or not. Police murdering someone is much more rare. The ratio you are talking about probably is in fact well over 100:1.

>>creato+PV
Of course, it's only murder if someone ends up going to jail, no? Consider John Crawford, who was murdered by police, yet charges were not brought against them.

Now consider we have multiple data points of police committing murder and getting away with it. How can we argue that it's rare, given that we have several instances of police getting away with it and not being considered part of said recorded statistics?

>>fzeror+mB1
Exactly how many "multiple", and over how many years? The case you cited is 6 years old. If this is occurring at the rate being suggested by the comment I replied to, we should be able to find dozens of cases from this (partial) year alone. That's a lot of George Floyds to go unnoticed, in a media and cultural environment that is very interested in noticing them.