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>>pseudo+(OP)
This doesn't seem to make sense. By more accurately predicting where crimes will occur, the police departments can reduce the amount of patrols needed.

>>koheri+9e
Not if the patrols they are sending have been taught to see all of the people in those places as targets. Police can literally make things worse. Even the victims of crime often don't want police there.

This has been known in those communities for decades. It's only the most obvious, well-documented brutality that has begun to make other people aware of it. It's the broad reaction to that brutality, where other police and their strongest supporters reflexively excuse the inexcusable, that have made people like these mathematicians realize that sending the police doesn't solve the problems that their models are pinpointing.

If the mathematicians want to help people, they'll model the broader causes of poverty, injustice, and inequality. Then we can try to solve the real problems, rather than "I heard there was a problem, let's send in people with guns until it gets better."

>>jfenge+Gj
The victim's desires for police involvement is usually not very relevant. The victim can not provide any information to the police, but that doesn't mean that the police can't or shouldn't do anything.

Respecting the victim's wishes is basically giving tacic approval of spousal abuse and honor killings.

>>oh_sig+wl
You don't fix spousal abuse nor honour killing by sending police to arrest people in poor neighbourhood. You fix spousal abuse by social interventions and honour killing by targeted response combined with social interventions.

>>sudosy+io
Are you saying that the visible presence of the police won't stop any type of crime, or just specifically your spousal abuse example?

>>devtul+Dr
In general physical presence of police helps crime in the short term, but not in the media to long term, instead it likely makes it worse. The spousal abuse example wasn't mine, but the GP's.