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1. blueda+5i[view] [source] 2020-06-22 13:55:51
>>itcrow+(OP)
Stop messing with people, and this won't happen. I don't feel bad for the police.
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2. banads+xA[view] [source] 2020-06-22 15:34:50
>>blueda+5i
I too dislike hyper aggressive militarized police who act above the law. But anyone who makes facile generalizations about entire groups of people is merely mirroring the problem, not helping it.

Edit: "populations" -> "groups of people"

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3. enrage+PE[view] [source] 2020-06-22 15:54:41
>>banads+xA
Normally I agree, but this is one of those situations where the problem goes far beyond "a few bad apples". The entire police culture in the United States is built on the "good" cops not reporting, fiercely defending, or even lying to provide cover for the bad ones. And at that point, every person who tolerates the bad behaviors ends up enabling them, and therefore become complicit in them.
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4. banads+zM[view] [source] 2020-06-22 16:28:40
>>enrage+PE
>not reporting, fiercely defending, or even lying to provide cover for the bad ones. And at that point, every person who tolerates the bad behaviors ends up enabling them, and therefore become complicit in them.

Precisely the same mentality is present in many of the most crime ridden neighborhoods in the US.[1]

Are you able to think objectively for a moment, and see how your reaction to police doing that, is similar the police's reaction to criminals doing that?

[1]https://youtu.be/nFhWpTKvD8E

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5. teddyh+zN[view] [source] 2020-06-22 16:32:58
>>banads+zM
Classic whataboutism.

EDIT: The commented post was edited after I wrote my original above comment. Now it’s more like victim-blaming.

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6. banads+hO[view] [source] 2020-06-22 16:36:07
>>teddyh+zN
When two things are directly interrelated (attitudes among police and attitudes among criminals), are we not allowed to discuss them both? Why not? Seems like you're trying to purposefully shun context, which isn't a practical way of understanding reality.
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7. Apocry+pP[view] [source] 2020-06-22 16:40:22
>>banads+hO
For one thing, LEOs receive governmental and societal sanction, are armed with lethal force, and receive legal immunity, and so clearly should be held to a higher standard.
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8. banads+WQ[view] [source] 2020-06-22 16:45:46
>>Apocry+pP
Agreed! That still doesn't mean Collective Punishment is ethical

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Collective_punishment

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9. guerri+jY[view] [source] 2020-06-22 17:17:33
>>banads+WQ
Stopping all of agroup from doing something terrible is a far cry frol collective punishment. In fact there's no need to punish at all here, simple eliminate the problem.
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