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>>itcrow+(OP)
The only remarkable fact about this leak is that us plebes get to see the other side of the one-way mirror.

>>rmrfst+d2
You get to see how the sausage is made in a developed country which is, by far, an outlier in its crime-rate. I'm all for increasing police de-escalation training and policing standards in-general, I just don't think it will solve the problems that the protestors want to be solved when the crime rate is as high as it is. Ultimately, the cops are going to get jaded and stressed in ways that cops in other nations would not, and they will always prioritize their life and well-being over that of the perpetrator.

I was travelling a few years ago, and hanging out in the hotel bar in Portland, Maine, and I listened in on a heated conversation between some guy and a lady whose husband is a cop. They were discussing police brutality and the protests at the time (Baltimore maybe?), and the lady's point was basically "do whatever you want with regulating police behaviour, but I will take my husband coming home at the end of the night over anything else"

It's possible with the falling rates of crime, this may just solve itself (though increasing police training and standards is a good thing regardless).

>>macspo+G6
It's exactly that attitude to policing that's the root of all this. Yes, we all want our loved ones coming home at the end of the day. But when you go out with the assumption that everybody is trying to kill you, everybody treats you with suspicion and fear. If you're looking for a place to break that cycle, it's gonna have to start with not reflexively defending police who have clearly committed murder.

Those Baltimore riots were sparked because a man who was in custody suffered injuries that could not have been caused any other way except by the police who held him, and all of them were acquitted. When people see that the system is intent on protecting the police, that means a lot of people aren't going to care whether that woman's husband makes it home or not.

Crime has been falling at the same time as police misconduct (not just the actual abuses, but the protection around them) has become more visible. Somebody needs to de-escalate it, and that would be a great place to start.

>>jfenge+lc
>It's exactly that attitude to policing that's the root of all this.

You mean, humanity?

>Yes, we all want our loved ones coming home at the end of the day. But when you go out with the assumption that everybody is trying to kill you

Exactly true - but that's why the crime rate being so high rises the stress levels and enforces these views. Patrolling a Oslo, Norway, which has a murder rate of 0.5 per 100k, is different than patroling Atlanta, Georgia with a murder rate of 17 per 100k. Right?

>Crime has been falling at the same time as police misconduct (not just the actual abuses, but the protection around them) has become more visible.

I think I saw some stats that showed police misconduct has been falling as well - but as you said, visibility has been increased. Maybe this is all being solved, it just takes time.

Having said that, I do think police standards should be high, including admittance, and continual training on de-escalation drills and handling of high-stress situations. That should be simple to implement, and all it costs is taxes (and I think, given the current situation, that cost is worth it)