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1. m0zg+Wc[view] [source] 2020-06-17 22:10:47
>>fortra+(OP)
Maximum sentence is 10 years, she's unlikely to get that, but _minimum_ is 5 years IIRC. That's a _long_ time. And then you're a felon and you can't find a decent job. What was the calculus there, I wonder? Under what circumstances would a person rationally consider torching a police cruiser to be worth the risk of 5 years in the slammer?
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2. coldte+Bd[view] [source] 2020-06-17 22:15:15
>>m0zg+Wc
Perhaps when prioritising their morality and cause, over what's beneficial for them?
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3. m0zg+ce[view] [source] 2020-06-17 22:19:13
>>coldte+Bd
What "morality" or "cause" are you talking about? She burned a police cruiser.
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4. coffee+4g[view] [source] 2020-06-17 22:34:01
>>m0zg+ce
In America right now there are ongoing protests and riots over the conduct of domestic police departments, specifically their proclivity toward extrajudicial execution and battery of black people in the streets. Damaging police property including their cars and precincts is a powerful (if legally risky) expression of that anger.
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5. rafael+6k[view] [source] 2020-06-17 23:02:02
>>coffee+4g
We are On 21st century, we know violence doesn’t stop violence, crime doesn’t stop crime. People should use modern tools to reduce racial issues. Like voting or social media’s, never burn a state property. Tax money could be used for better things But now the police department will buy 2 more cars.
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6. coffee+862[view] [source] 2020-06-18 16:25:24
>>rafael+6k
> Tax money could be used for better things But now the police department will buy 2 more cars.

Police departments around the country are being downsized, kicked out of their unions, and in some cases defunded entirely. That's good news! The money will be used for better things.

It's not the sort of thing HN likes to hear but the techniques used in these protests are pretty much working as expected.

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7. Animal+pl2[view] [source] 2020-06-18 17:48:57
>>coffee+862
That's good news? I disagree.

The police are not perfect. We need to hold them accountable to some reasonable standards of behavior. But if you defund them entirely, then what do you expect is going to happen? Peace and harmony?

No, what's going to happen is that criminals will still be criminals, and perhaps bolder and more blatant criminals. Drug addicts will continue to be drug addicts, and will do crazy things while they're high, and crazy things in order to get money to get high. Such people will continue to interact with non-criminal non-addict people, who will feel threatened. But now the police won't be there. Now what?

In a country with an armed population, the police probably reduce the number of misbehaving people who are killed, because (for all their flaws) they are still less trigger-happy than a frightened gun-owner who feels threatened by an encounter with some strange-acting person.

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