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1. drewco+kj[view] [source] 2020-06-17 22:56:33
>>fortra+(OP)
They catch them with Etsy and LinkedIn. Or at least construct that evidence path post facto? Ok, sure. Seems normal.

But is there a Kickstarter legal defense fund?

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2. rsween+oq[view] [source] 2020-06-17 23:53:45
>>drewco+kj
I'm curious if you really think that it is ok to set fire to a police car? If so, what's the logic? Because my understanding of the first amendment (i.e. the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances) does not protect you if you commit crimes.
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3. theweb+Js[view] [source] 2020-06-18 00:15:55
>>rsween+oq
If the police are indiscriminately killing members of my race simply because they're afraid of people from my race, I don't think a little property damage to draw attention to that fact is really an equivalent response. So yeah, I'm OK with setting fire to a police car in this circumstance.

But the bigger question is, did they really find the person doing the work they claimed or did they use parallel construction to hide illegal use of surveillance tools?

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4. GhostV+Cx[view] [source] 2020-06-18 01:02:23
>>theweb+Js
Based on the metrics I have seen, police are not indiscriminately killing any particular race - deaths from police are not too far off of the crime rates by race. Police killings is a problem, but does not seem to be a problem targeted at any particular race.
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5. lostmy+3E[view] [source] 2020-06-18 02:10:36
>>GhostV+Cx
I looked into it a few years ago. Because it's also about structural racism, you need to compare rastes and numbers with comparable international figures, as there are biases stacked upon biases if you only look at domestic relative rates. Those crime statistics you cited, try to compare them to some other first world countries. Look at incarceration rates, convication rates, ratio of jury trials, and percentages of subpopulations in prison at any one time, and as long as you are willing to accept it, you'll soon start to see a very clear pattern. You'll see that US crimes statistics over ethnicity and income doesn't look like anything, or anywhere else at all. It's bizarrely skewed, not subtle at all.
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6. GhostV+PE[view] [source] 2020-06-18 02:19:06
>>lostmy+3E
Crime statistics are definitely skewed, and discrimination is a huge part of that. But the question is not whether black people are being killed at a higher rate due to discrimination, the question is whether black people are being killed at a higher rate because the police are targeting them due to their race. The answer to the former is definitely yes - due to a variety of factors including discrimination black people commit more violent crimes and as a result are killed by the police more frequently. I think the answer to the latter is no, there is not strong evidence that police officers are more likely to kill black people over white people in the same situation.
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