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1. darth_+Cj1[view] [source] 2020-06-16 22:44:36
>>saeedj+(OP)
For everyone arguing "honest mistake" or "just chance", think about the person at the receiving end. For the person making that mistake, it could be their first, but for the person at the receiving end it could be the hundredth, and that too, not without consequences. The first 3-4 times I got "randomly selected" for additional screening at the airport, I was like whatever. But years later after my probably 100th "random selection", I am mostly just upset. Watching traveler after traveler go around you, staring at you, while you're being subjected to additional search, your baggage laid out open in front of everyone, while being asked questions like "have you recently been in contact with any chemicals?" and so on. It is humiliating. And this is just one aspect of their life. Imagine having to face "honest mistakes" everyday in all kinds of different aspects of your life.
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2. sfj+aH1[view] [source] 2020-06-17 01:32:41
>>darth_+Cj1
Did you ever think it might be the way you dress or your demeanor? Obviously, it could be racial also, but how could you know that?
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3. titzer+UX1[view] [source] 2020-06-17 04:16:10
>>sfj+aH1
You are being downvoted because this is a soft form of victim blaming [1]. As tone and context are difficult to transmit in such a short reply, it might be a good idea to phrase things in a more empathetic way in the future.

And for the record, no, no this isn't because of how they dress.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Victim_blaming

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4. sfj+zc2[view] [source] 2020-06-17 07:06:24
>>titzer+UX1
I disagree with the premise of “victim blaming”. If we can't look at all sides of an issue for fear of being publicly shamed for going against a narrative, we'll end up with wrong conclusions a lot of the time.

I did acknowledge racism could also play a part, but I don't see how we are supposed to be able to accept that one can read the minds of those that affront him.

I also don't give a damn about the “monkey no like, hit 'you are bad' button” people seem to care about.

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5. titzer+tG4[view] [source] 2020-06-17 23:43:25
>>sfj+zc2
Well to honest your post was the textbook definition of victim blaming. It was hardly a "premise." With absolutely zero evidence you flat out accused them of wrong behavior (dressing wrong, acting wrong) instead of considering their situation on the facts they presented. That is victim blaming.

But now you try turn the tables around. Your feelings are so important. Painting yourself as the victim is the all-too-predictable next step in that logical chain. Congratulations on making this all about you.

Instead of being pissed off and trying to fire another salvo to get other people pissed off and concerned about you, you should try to listen to people instead. You came out of the gate with the over the top with "your lived experience is invalid, here is my completely context-free flat denial that anything is wrong, I don't want to hear what you are saying". This whole chain originated out of your lack of empathy, and here now we completely forgot about the people who are actually victimized.

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