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>>Xordev+(OP)
What a bummer that workers are publicly demanding this, and (presumably) seeking press attention on it.

I'm no fan of ICE – a very large percentage of my friends in the US are immigrants, and I generally want my country to be a welcoming one. ICE has certainly committed unethical and probably illegal acts (probably true of most federal agencies).

But to expect that a _federal agency_ will be denied service from a private entity, especially for essentially political reasons, is lunacy. It'd attract extreme negative attention from the rest of the government, and great fear from all paying customers that an internet mob could separate them from their code at any time.

We should absolutely be lobbying hard for changes to immigration law, the restrictions placed on ICE, and justice for their wrongdoings.

But I can't see how this helps improve immigration, and it certainly seems likely to cause a lot of negative consequences for GitHub. The employees are putting their employer in a "damned if they do, damned if they don't" situation.

EDIT: Just to clarify, I love the vision of a world where executives don't take actions their workers will protest. I think that in order to get there, the protests need to be reasonable, and I think this one isn't.

EDIT DISCLAIMER: I own a small amount of MSFT stock, which was not on my mind as I wrote this. I use GitHub's free service and have no other relationship I can think of with MSFT or GitHub.

>>rattra+Rh
Why can't you see this helping? Can you not see the rally that is happening in the corporate world in favor of the BLM movement? Even if corporations are posturing this stance with no real action at the moment, if bigger entities make real actions like this, it will catch on, and then it will trickle down to smaller businesses, and it will seep into lobbying circles. This has leaderships around the world forced to make visible, impactful actions. Fear of disruption keeps the status quo in place.

>>tresfa+Tp
Your movement hit at a bad time. The corporate world has to grip with a few critical issues around staying in business, shifting to remote and it will increasely feel a pressure to move manifacturing onshore.

I would focua on what changes you can make with police forces before the second covid wave hits and pushes your issue to remember when status.

>>wolco+3u
Arguably if it wasn't for the weakness of corporate world right now this never would have happened. Indeed, the average American is much too busy with work in order to achieve this level of political engagement.