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[return to "After GitHub CEO backs Black Lives Matter, workers demand an end to ICE contract"]
1. lurknn+8m[view] [source] 2020-06-15 16:55:09
>>Xordev+(OP)
If working with ICE is so reprehensible, why are none of these employees taking advantage of their in-demand skillset and moving on to companies that better respect their values?

I'm sympathetic with those who point out that corporations typically have more leverage than individual employees, and that changing jobs is not so easy for those who are less privileged. That category, though, of "less privileged" with regards to employment flexibility simply does not apply to the average Github employee, at all, as sircmpwn frequently points out.

Furthermore, regardless of which side of this debate you stand on, it is definitely disheartening to see people so vehemently against this relationship yet do NOT back up their feelings with actions. I cannot help but scoff when I see people on Github with "stop ICE" profile pictures. It's nothing but a profound selfishness: wanting to be on the self-perceived "right side of history" but not so much so that you set your origin to Gitlab or SourceHut instead...

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2. wvenab+ju[view] [source] 2020-06-15 17:25:06
>>lurknn+8m
Isn't this the same argument as "If you hate America so much why don't you just leave"? Don't employees have more power to change their employer if they are still employees?
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3. lurknn+uw[view] [source] 2020-06-15 17:32:44
>>wvenab+ju
I agree that employees have the power to change their employer, I merely am pointing out a potential other option that I rarely see discussed. Github is one thing, and an organization that I think is better than most, I think I was mainly thinking of other equivalents, like Facebook, which has _never_ been anything but reprehensible, and yet employees try to believe in this "change from inside" narrative. At a certain point, it is only self-delusion.

To be honest, I dislike America, and do plan to leave it in the next couple of years. I've always considered it a reasonable option :)

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