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1. rattra+Rh[view] [source] 2020-06-15 16:40:02
>>Xordev+(OP)
What a bummer that workers are publicly demanding this, and (presumably) seeking press attention on it.

I'm no fan of ICE – a very large percentage of my friends in the US are immigrants, and I generally want my country to be a welcoming one. ICE has certainly committed unethical and probably illegal acts (probably true of most federal agencies).

But to expect that a _federal agency_ will be denied service from a private entity, especially for essentially political reasons, is lunacy. It'd attract extreme negative attention from the rest of the government, and great fear from all paying customers that an internet mob could separate them from their code at any time.

We should absolutely be lobbying hard for changes to immigration law, the restrictions placed on ICE, and justice for their wrongdoings.

But I can't see how this helps improve immigration, and it certainly seems likely to cause a lot of negative consequences for GitHub. The employees are putting their employer in a "damned if they do, damned if they don't" situation.

EDIT: Just to clarify, I love the vision of a world where executives don't take actions their workers will protest. I think that in order to get there, the protests need to be reasonable, and I think this one isn't.

EDIT DISCLAIMER: I own a small amount of MSFT stock, which was not on my mind as I wrote this. I use GitHub's free service and have no other relationship I can think of with MSFT or GitHub.

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2. fennec+Fi[view] [source] 2020-06-15 16:43:15
>>rattra+Rh
> It'd attract extreme negative attention from the rest of the government, and great fear from all paying customers that an internet mob could separate them from their code at any time.

Using Microsoft as your canonical code repository is already a meaningful risk to your business. It's nice that more companies are recognizing this.

They're building nice new features with their ecosystem, too, in traditional Microsoft embrace-extend style.

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3. rattra+jl[view] [source] 2020-06-15 16:52:57
>>fennec+Fi
Right, storing your code anywhere presents risk (including self-hosted on a FOSS stack). With GitHub/MSFT, that risk includes "they decide they don't like you anymore" amongst others. How high is that risk? You'll think it's a lot higher if GitHub were to kick off ICE.

(disclaimer: I hold a small amount of MSFT stock, though this was not on my mind when I wrote my original post - thanks for the reminder).

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