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>>longde+(OP)
I’m not American, but isn’t the police about the only people you should ever trust (if any) with facial-recognition technology?

If you can’t trust your police with it, then there is something fundamentally wrong with your society.

>>moksly+P8
You got it in one: we don't trust our police with it, and there is something fundamentally wrong with society. That is why there have been calls to radically re-think, or even eliminate, policing in the US.

This announcement coincides with protests against police brutality, at which many police have behaved brutally. That was sparked by an outright homicide by a police officer, captured on video, of a man who was subdued and presented no threat -- while other police officers watched, and many others have subsequently attempted to justify.

The "something fundamentally wrong" is very complex and subject to genuine debate, but it's not subject to debate that whatever it is, people don't trust the police.

>>jfenge+ha
It's less complex if you look at all these problems as symptoms. At the core is the racism. The gratuitous brutality, the lying, the planting of evidence, the us-versus-them attitude, the lawlessness, the replacement of the American flag with a Thin Blue Line flag, all of that could never have gotten so bad if racism wasn't at the core driving everything else.

>>Lendal+Ad
>> It's less complex if you look at all these problems as symptoms. At the core is the racism.

I dont agree. Racism is a problem but I think corruption is the core. The police are often taught that they are above the law, starting with quotas - which encourage ticketing people for minor, subjective, or fictitious infractions. Moving up to things like parallel construction (lying in court), civil forfeiture (stealing from people), coercing confessions, and more. Then sprinkle in speeding when on duty when there is no reason, or illegally parking at McDonalds to run in for a burger. From small to significant infractions they give themselves and each other a pass, or are taught or encouraged to do wrong. In an environment like that you drop in a couple racists and well...

There are studies on workplace safety. If you want to prevent fatal accidents you start by creating a culture of safety from the bottom. You clean up work spaces. You take care of trip hazards. You measure the number of bandages used each month and take measures to prevent those accidents. Over time this results in fewer fatalities even on large construction projects.

I think the same applies to corruption.

>>phkahl+uh
I'm in agreement with you. While its obvious that race is a factor in at least a subset of incidents with the police (and those incidents should be investigated to the fullest), the vast majority of issues stemming from police interaction can effect anyone of any color.

This is a legislative and judicial issue as well. Politicians, a fair number of whom are former judges, pass terrible legislation that is then prosecuted by DA's with little to no regard for justice (only conviction rates matter, right?), while cases are judged by former DA's who've managed to move up the chain a little. The management layer is a circle of incestuous self aggrandizing bullshit, and while cops are the boots stepping on the people, someone else to managing where, and how most of that stepping happens.